Finding the Maximum Seats of Two Vans Using Linear Algebra

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves two vans used by a company during a specific time frame, with one van having five more seats than the other. The total maximum seating capacity for both vans is given as 71. The original poster is seeking assistance in formulating equations to determine the number of seats in the larger van.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the formulation of equations based on the information provided, specifically focusing on the relationships between the number of seats in the two vans. There is an exploration of substituting one equation into another to simplify the problem.

Discussion Status

Participants have identified key equations and are working through the algebraic manipulation required to solve for the number of seats in the larger van. There is an ongoing dialogue about the correctness of their calculations and the interpretation of the problem's constraints.

Contextual Notes

Some participants question the implications of the smaller van making two trips while the larger van makes one, suggesting that this detail may affect the overall understanding of the problem.

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Homework Statement




A co. use two vans 7-9am. 1 van has 5 more seat than the other. The smaller van makes two trips, larger 1 trip?
The maximum seats of both vans that was given would be 71.
Let x be the seats of small van and y be the seat of the larger van.
How many seats does the larger van have?

PLEASE HELP! I know that I have to use a linear function hear. PLEASE GIVE AN EQUATION TO THIS PROBLEM. THANK YOU!

Homework Equations


well i know that I only can use the given information.
here what I got so far:
y= x+5... because it has 5 more seats than the smaller van, which has x seats.
PLEASE HELP!
 
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Yes, the equation you gave is correct.
There is one other equation hidden in the text. More precisely, in this line:
The maximum seats of both vans that was given would be 71.
 
CompuChip said:
Yes, the equation you gave is correct.
There is one other equation hidden in the text. More precisely, in this line:

would it be x+y=71 because x=the smaller van and y= the larger van...put them together it has a seat of 71

AND if that's the case what's after this
y=x+5
71=x+y
 
you can take the first equation and substitute it into the second equation, leaving a new equation with only one variable, which you can then solve for.
 
mg0stisha said:
you can take the first equation and substitute it into the second equation, leaving a new equation with only one variable, which you can then solve for.

y=x+5
71=x+y
------------
y=x+5
-y=x-71
------------
0=x+5
0=x-71
-5-+71=76
------------- this is wrong is it
y=x+5
71=x+y
----------------------
-5=x+-y
71=x+y
66=x CORRECT IT PLease
 
try taking the first equation just as it is, and substituting it in for the 'y' in the second equation.
 
mg0stisha said:
try taking the first equation just as it is, and substituting it in for the 'y' in the second equation.

y=x+5
71=x+y

y=x+5
71=x+x+5
71=x2+5
-5 -5
66=x2
8.12=x

IS THIS STILL WRONG?... DO I NEED TO INCORPORATE "The smaller van makes two trips, larger 1 trip".
 
you had everything correct except for your variables. x+x does not equal x^2, it equals 2x. instead of taking the square root, just divide the answer you got by 2.
 
mg0stisha said:
you had everything correct except for your variables. x+x does not equal x^2, it equals 2x. instead of taking the square root, just divide the answer you got by 2.

66=2x
33=x
 
  • #10
mg0stisha said:
you had everything correct except for your variables. x+x does not equal x^2, it equals 2x. instead of taking the square root, just divide the answer you got by 2.

then x=33 then back to the situation where the smaller van(x) makes two trips and the question is trying to figure out what's the number of seats on the larger van.

IS THERE ANOTHER STEP BECAUSE WHEN I INPUTTED 33 AS THE ANSWER IT WAS INCORRECT.

A MORE RECENT QUESTION LIKE THIS ONE IS
https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?p=2480814#post2480814
 
  • #11
well you know that x+y=71
and you now know x, which is the smaller van.
so solve for y! you're almost there.
 
  • #12
mg0stisha said:
well you know that x+y=71
and you now know x, which is the smaller van.
so solve for y! you're almost there.
x=33
x+y=71
33+y=71
-33 -33
y=38 is there another step??
 
  • #13
if you're just looking for how many seats the larger van has, then no.
 
  • #14
mg0stisha said:
if you're just looking for how many seats the larger van has, then no.

then what do I do?
 

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