Finding the point where the net electric field is 0

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves three charges located at the corners of an equilateral triangle, with the goal of determining the position of a fourth charge such that the net electric field at a specific point is zero. The context is centered around electric fields and forces due to point charges.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss calculating the electric field at point P and setting it to zero. There is confusion regarding the interpretation of the problem statement and the contributions of multiple charges to the electric field.

Discussion Status

Some participants have attempted to clarify the requirement for the electric field at point P to be zero and have suggested methods for calculating the electric field contributions from the charges. However, there is a lack of consensus on how to proceed with the calculations, particularly regarding the total electric field and the implications of multiple charges.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem involves assumptions about the distances and the nature of the charges, with some expressing uncertainty about how to incorporate the contributions from all three charges into their calculations.

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Homework Statement



Three charges of equal magnitude q reside at the corners of an equilateral triangle of side length a. The topmost charge is positive while the charges at the bottom left and bottom right of the triangle are negative. If point P is midway between the negative charges, at what distance above point P along the +y axis must a -8q charge must be placed so that any charge located at point P experiences no net electric force? The distance from point P to the positive charge is 9 meters.

Homework Equations



E = (kq)/r^2

The Attempt at a Solution



No clue. I think you would find the the electrical field for one of the points and then, using that, find the x and y components of the magnitude. Then solve for 0 = sqrt{(Ex)^2 - (Ey)^2}... but the "any charge located at point P" is confusing me. Or else I'm not thinking correctly.
 
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It just means that the electric field at P has to be 0. So assume that the third charge is a distance "a" from P, calculate the electric field at P, and set the result to 0.
 
ideasrule said:
It just means that the electric field at P has to be 0. So assume that the third charge is a distance "a" from P, calculate the electric field at P, and set the result to 0.

If the electric field at P is equal to (-4*ke*q)/(3a^2), where ke = 8.99 * 10^9, do I proceed by plugging in -8q for q and setting equal to 0?

If so, how would I solve for a? a could be any number so long as the numerator is 0.
 
012983 said:
If the electric field at P is equal to (-4*ke*q)/(3a^2), where ke = 8.99 * 10^9, do I proceed by plugging in -8q for q and setting equal to 0?

That's not the total electric field. There are 3 charges, not just one, and the electric field has both an x and a y component.
 

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