Finding the Speed Needed to Propel Packages Up an Inclined Ramp

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The problem involves determining the speed required to propel packages up an inclined ramp, specifically an 8.0-meter ramp at a 37-degree angle with a coefficient of kinetic friction of 0.30. The goal is for the packages to reach the top of the ramp with zero speed.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster attempts to analyze the forces acting on the package, including gravitational force and friction, and expresses uncertainty about how to relate initial velocity to acceleration without knowing the mass. Other participants question the clarity of the problem statement and whether any edits were made to the original text.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the implications of mass in the context of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the division of mass in the equations, but there is no explicit consensus on the approach to take.

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There is a mention of missing information regarding the mass of the packages, which may affect the ability to solve the problem fully. Additionally, the clarity of the problem statement has been questioned, indicating potential confusion among participants.

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Homework Statement


You are working for a shipping company. Your job is to stand at the bottom of a 8.0-m-long ramp that is inclined at 37 degrees above the horizontal. You grab packages off a conveyor belt and propel them up the ramp. The coefficient of kinetic friction between the packages and the ramp is .30 What speed do you need to give a package at the bottom of the ramp so that it has zero speed at the top of the ramp?


Homework Equations


[tex]x = x_0 + v_0 t + (1/2) a t^2[/tex]

[tex]v = v_0 + a t[/tex]

[tex]v^2 = v_0^2 + 2 a \Delta x[/tex]

[tex]\vec{F}_{net} = \Sigma \vec{F} = m \vec{a}[/tex]


The Attempt at a Solution



Well first I drew a digram which gave me a component of [tex]nsin37[/tex] as the force acting down the ramp and then of course the nu force of friction. SO, then I wrote out that

as

[tex]\vec{F}_{net} = \Sigma \vec{F} = m \vec{a} = -mgsin37 - .30mg + F_t[/tex]

With [tex]F_t[/tex] being the force of the throw

Then I know that since I'm solving for the initial velocity that should be related to the acceleration and the force through

[tex]v = v_0 + a t[/tex]

but I'm not sure how. I haven't been given the value for the mass, so I'm not sure if I can even solve this problem only using the given variables.
 
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robbondo said:

Homework Statement


You are working for a shipping company. Your job is to stand at the bottom of a 8.0-m-long ramp that is inclined at 37 degrees above the horizontal. You grab packages off a conveyor belt and propel them up the ramp. The coefficient of kinetic friction between the packages and the ramp is u.

Ok, and where's the problem in the text? :wink:
 
oops... fixed it.
 
Am I missing something, just below where it is lopped off in the quote. was there an edit?

Rob, anyway its a bit like the last one, the masses all divide out.
 

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