Finding the volume of the solid

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The problem involves finding the volume of a solid bounded by the coordinate planes and two planes defined by the equations x + y + z = 2 and z = x + y. The context is within the subject area of multivariable calculus.

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  • Participants discuss attempts at calculating the volume using double integrals, with one participant noting a negative result which suggests an error. There are questions about the setup of the problem and the correct limits of integration. Some participants share sketches of the solid to clarify its geometry and boundaries.

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The discussion is ongoing with participants providing insights into the geometry of the solid and questioning the correctness of initial attempts. There is a focus on visualizing the solid and understanding the relationships between its vertices. Some guidance has been offered regarding the equations of the planes involved.

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Participants note that the solid lies entirely in the first octant and discuss the vertices of the tetrahedrons that define the solid. There is an emphasis on ensuring the correct interpretation of the boundaries and the integration limits.

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Homework Statement
Find the volume V of the solid S bounded by the three coordinate planes, bounded above by the plane x + y + z = 2, and bounded below by the z = x + y.
Relevant Equations
No equation
My attempt : ## \displaystyle\int_0^2 \displaystyle\int_0^{2-x} (2-2x -2y) dy dx = -\frac43 ## But it is wrong.
 
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WMDhamnekar said:
Homework Statement:: Find the volume V of the solid S bounded by the three coordinate planes, bounded above by the plane x + y + z = 2, and bounded below by the z = x + y.
Relevant Equations:: No equation

My attempt : ## \displaystyle\int_0^2 \displaystyle\int_0^{2-x} (2-2x -2y) dy dx = -\frac43 ## But it is wrong.
Your first clue that you have done something wrong is that you got a negative number for the volume. Have you drawn a sketch of the solid? It looks like a pair of tetrahedrons, one on top of the other. At least one of your lower integration limits is wrong, as the base of the solid isn't in the x-y plane.
 
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Mark44 said:
Your first clue that you have done something wrong is that you got a negative number for the volume. Have you drawn a sketch of the solid? It looks like a pair of tetrahedrons, one on top of the other. At least one of your lower integration limits is wrong, as the base of the solid isn't in the x-y plane.
My graphing calculator sketched this problem as follows:

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Now, which volume, the author want to be computed by readers, viewers and/or students?
 
The graphs from your calculator aren't very helpful. The sketch I drew on a piece of paper shows that the solid lies entirely in the first octant (the portion of space in which all three coordinates are nonnegative).

The vertices of the upper tetrahedron are at (0, 0, 2), (1, 0, 1), (0, 1, 1), and (0, 0, 1). Notice that the first three of these vertices lie on the plane z = 2 - x - y. The vertices of the lower tetrahedron are at (0, 0, 0), (1, 0, 1), (0, 1, 1), and (0, 0, 1). The first three of these vertices lie on the plane z = x + y.
 
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Mark44 said:
The graphs from your calculator aren't very helpful. The sketch I drew on a piece of paper shows that the solid lies entirely in the first octant (the portion of space in which all three coordinates are nonnegative).

The vertices of the upper tetrahedron are at (0, 0, 2), (1, 0, 1), (0, 1, 1), and (0, 0, 1). Notice that the first three of these vertices lie on the plane z = 2 - x - y. The vertices of the lower tetrahedron are at (0, 0, 0), (1, 0, 1), (0, 1, 1), and (0, 0, 1). The first three of these vertices lie on the plane z = x + y.
Hi,
Is the following sketch as per your vertices correct?
solidgraph.png
 
WMDhamnekar said:
Hi,
Is the following sketch as per your vertices correct?View attachment 301525
Yes, that looks like what I did. I haven't worked the problem, but I think you'll need the equation of the line that goes from (1, 0, 1) over to (0, 1, 1). This should be x + y = 1, in the plane z = 1.
 
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Mark44 said:
Yes, that looks like what I did. I haven't worked the problem, but I think you'll need the equation of the line that goes from (1, 0, 1) over to (0, 1, 1). This should be x + y = 1, in the plane z = 1.
Sothe final answer to this question is ## \displaystyle\int_0^1\displaystyle\int_0^{1-x} (2-2x-2y) dy dx = \frac13 ##
 

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