Finding time given positions in SHM

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The problem involves a block attached to a spring moving in simple harmonic motion (SHM) on a frictionless surface. The original poster seeks to determine the time taken for the block to travel from a position of 0.090m to -0.090m after the amplitude of the motion is doubled from 0.090m to 0.180m.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between the period of a spring-mass oscillator and amplitude, questioning whether the period changes with amplitude. The original poster attempts to apply the cosine function to find the time taken for specific positions but encounters difficulties with phase and time calculations.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on using the cosine function to describe the motion and suggested finding the times corresponding to specific positions to determine the time difference. The original poster indicates that this approach has resolved their confusion regarding phase and position dependence.

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There is an acknowledgment that the period of the oscillator does not depend on amplitude, yet the problem specifically asks for the time taken to cover a certain distance, which has led to some confusion in the calculations.

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Homework Statement


A small block is attached to an ideal spring and is moving in SHM on a horizontal, frictionless surface. When the amplitude of the motion is 0.090m , it takes the block 2.52s to travel from 0.090m to -0.090m . If the amplitude is doubled, to 0.180m , how long does it take the block to travel from 0.090m to -0.090m ?


Homework Equations


x=Acos(ωt+∅)


The Attempt at a Solution


Ive found the period to be 5.0s, angular frequency to be 1.26 rad/s, and ∅=1.05 rad. Rearranging above equation for time I got (cos-1(x/A)/ω)-∅=t, but this gives me disproportionally large answers. Any suggestions?
 
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On what does the period of a spring-mass oscillator depend? (What's the usual formula for the period)? Do any of the relevant values change when the amplitude is changed?
 
I am aware that the period does not depend on amplitude, however the problem asks for the time taken to cover half of the amplitude. Even with this knowledge I can't figure how to determine this time.
 
Okay. So while the period remains the same, the amplitude has changed. Call the new amplitude B = 0.180 m. Then a function describing position versus time for the oscillator is:

##x(t) = B cos(\omega t)##

You don't need to find a phase, just assume that the function describes the motion beginning at an amplitude maximum. Hence the simple cosine function.

Find the two times corresponding to x1 = 0.090 m and x2 = -0.090 m, and then take the difference.
 
It worked! Thank you very much, it seems that I was thrown off by the phase and was ignoring that the times were dependent upon position and I needed to find the difference between the two.
 
jstevenson16 said:
It worked! Thank you very much, it seems that I was thrown off by the phase and was ignoring that the times were dependent upon position and I needed to find the difference between the two.

Excellent. Glad it worked out!
 

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