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The discussion revolves around finding the unit vector of a complex vector \(\vec E\) defined in terms of real and complex components. Participants are exploring the calculation of the magnitude of \(\vec E\) and the implications of using complex numbers in this context.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the expression for the magnitude of the complex vector and question the interpretation of \((Be^{j\phi})^2\). There is exploration of substituting the exponential form and clarifying the distinction between the square of the complex term and its magnitude.

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Some participants have confirmed the correctness of the calculations regarding the magnitude of the complex vector. There is ongoing clarification about the use of absolute values in the context of complex numbers, with multiple interpretations being explored regarding the relationship between real and complex magnitudes.

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Participants are navigating the differences in calculating magnitudes for real versus complex vectors, with specific focus on the implications of using the inner product for complex vectors. There is mention of potential confusion regarding the definitions and properties of complex numbers in this context.

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I want to find the unit vector of ## \vec E= \hat x A\;+\;\hat y Be^{j\phi}##

##\hat E=\frac {\vec E}{|\vec E|}##

From my work: ##|\vec E|=\sqrt{A^2+(Be^{j\phi})^2}##

My question is what is ##(Be^{j\phi})^2##?

Do I substitude ##e^{j\phi}=\cos \phi +j\sin \phi##? So ##(Be^{j\phi})^2=B^2[(\cos\phi+j\sin\phi)(\cos\phi-j\sin\phi)]\;=\;B^2(\cos^2\phi+\sin^2\phi)\;=\;B^2##

##\Rightarrow\;|\vec E|=\sqrt{A^2+(Be^{j\phi})^2}\;=\;\sqrt{A^2+B^2}## and

[tex]\hat E\;=\;\frac{\hat x A\;+\;\hat y Be^{j\phi}}{\sqrt{A^2+B^2}}[/tex]

Thanks
 
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That is correct. Any value of the imaginary exponential is on the unit circle in the complex plane, so its magnitude is unity.
 
yungman said:
##(Be^{j\phi})^2##?

##(Be^{j\phi})^2 = B^2e^{2j\phi}##, but what you want is ##|Be^{j\phi}|^2 = B^2##
 
haruspex said:
##(Be^{j\phi})^2 = B^2e^{2j\phi}##, but what you want is ##|Be^{j\phi}|^2 = B^2##

Thanks for the reply. So what you mean is:

##|\vec E|=\sqrt{A^2+|Be^{j\phi}|^2}##

This is the main confusion for me. If you look at the ordinary way of finding the magnitude of a vector with real value, ##|\vec E|=\sqrt{(A)^2+(B)^2}##. So for complex vector we use "absolute" value...which means ##B^2=B\cdot B^*##?
 
voko said:
That is correct. Any value of the imaginary exponential is on the unit circle in the complex plane, so its magnitude is unity.

Thank you.
 
The magnitude of complex vectors, just like that of real vectors, is defined via their inner (dot, scalar) product. Recall how the inner product of complex vectors is defined.
 
voko said:
The magnitude of complex vectors, just like that of real vectors, is defined via their inner (dot, scalar) product. Recall how the inner product of complex vectors is defined.

Thank you very much. I see.
 

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