Finding Volume of Solid Rotated Using Washers and Disks

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The problem involves finding the volume of a solid obtained by rotating the region bounded by the curves y = x^2 and y = 4 about the line y = 4, utilizing the washer or disk method.

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  • Participants discuss the use of the washer method and the points of intersection of the curves. There are attempts to compute the volume using integrals, but several participants express confusion over the correct setup of the integrand and the order of subtraction between the curves.

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Participants are actively questioning the correctness of their integrands and the method of determining the volume. Some guidance has been offered regarding the radius of the disks and the need to square the radius in the integrand. There is ongoing exploration of the relationship between the curves and the implications for the volume calculation.

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Participants note potential issues with the order of subtraction in the integrand and the impact of this on the final volume calculation. There is also mention of the importance of drawing the region to clarify the relationships between the curves.

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Homework Statement



Using disks or washers, find the volume of the solid obtained by rotating the region bounded by the curves y = x^2 and y = 4 about the line y = 4

The Attempt at a Solution



Since y=4 is parallel to the x-axis i assume i should be using the 'washer' method.

The points of intersection are x = 2, x = -2... But when i compute the volume i get the wrong answer.

V = \pi \int ^{2}_{-2} ( x^{4} - 8 )dx = 1/5 x^{5} - 8x | ^{2}_{-2}

which results in pi * 64/5 which is apparently wrong...
 
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twoski said:

Homework Statement



Using disks or washers, find the volume of the solid obtained by rotating the region bounded by the curves y = x^2 and y = 4 about the line y = 4

The Attempt at a Solution



Since y=4 is parallel to the x-axis i assume i should be using the 'washer' method.

The points of intersection are x = 2, x = -2... But when i compute the volume i get the wrong answer.

V = \pi \int ^{2}_{-2} ( x^{2} - 4 )dx = 1/3 x^{3} - 4x | ^{2}_{-2}

which results in pi * 16/3 which is apparently wrong...

Check your formula for the washer method.
 
edit: Whoops.
 
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twoski said:

Homework Statement



Using disks or washers, find the volume of the solid obtained by rotating the region bounded by the curves y = x^2 and y = 4 about the line y = 4

The Attempt at a Solution



Since y=4 is parallel to the x-axis i assume i should be using the 'washer' method.

The points of intersection are x = 2, x = -2... But when i compute the volume i get the wrong answer.

V = \pi \int ^{2}_{-2} ( x^{2} - 4 )dx = 1/3 x^{3} - 4x | ^{2}_{-2}

which results in pi * 16/3 which is apparently wrong...

Your integrand is incorrect. The volume of a typical disk (it's not a washer here) is ##\pi##radius2*Δx. You are forgetting to square the radius.
 
V = \pi \int ^{2}_{-2} ( x^{4} - 16 )dx = 1/5 x^{5} - 16x | ^{2}_{-2}

So evaluating this, i get pi * -256/5, which is wrong... Is there a method for determining the order in which i subtract the two given functions? Since y=4 is above y=x^2 should i be subtracting y=x^2 from it instead?
 
What is the disk radius? What do you get when you square it?
 
twoski said:
V = \pi \int ^{2}_{-2} ( x^{4} - 16 )dx = 1/5 x^{5} - 16x | ^{2}_{-2}

So evaluating this, i get pi * -256/5, which is wrong... Is there a method for determining the order in which i subtract the two given functions? Since y=4 is above y=x^2 should i be subtracting y=x^2 from it instead?
Draw a picture of your region, and draw a single approximate disk of depth Δx. What is its radius?
 
LCKurtz said:
What is the disk radius? What do you get when you square it?

Well if i draw out x^2 and y=4, the distance from the lowest point in x^2 to y=4 is 4. And 4^2 is 16 so i guess i don't follow what you're hinting at.
 
twoski said:
Well if i draw out x^2 and y=4, the distance from the lowest point in x^2 to y=4 is 4. And 4^2 is 16 so i guess i don't follow what you're hinting at.

Great, that's the radius at x = 4. However, the radius varies with x. What is the radius r(x) as a function of x ?
 
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twoski said:
Well if i draw out x^2 and y=4, the distance from the lowest point in x^2 to y=4 is 4. And 4^2 is 16 so i guess i don't follow what you're hinting at.

The vertical distance between two curves is ##y_{upper}-y_{lower}##. What is that in this problem? What is its square? That's what goes in the integrand as ##\pi r^2dx##.
 
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Okay it's 4-x^2 so i guess my order was wrong, if that's what you're getting at?

I forgot order doesn't matter as long as you take the absolute value of your answer (since my result is 256/5 if i shift things around). So i guess 256/5 * pi is correct then?

Am i supposed to be squaring (4-x^2)^2 = (16 - 8x^2 + x^4) or should i be squaring them individually, like (4^2) - ((x^2)^2)?
 
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twoski said:
Okay it's 4-x^2 so i guess my order was wrong, if that's what you're getting at?
This is just the distance between a point on the line and a point on the curve.
twoski said:
I forgot order doesn't matter as long as you take the absolute value of your answer (since my result is 256/5 if i shift things around). So i guess 256/5 * pi is correct then?

Am i supposed to be squaring (4-x^2)^2 = (16 - 8x^2 + x^4) or should i be squaring them individually, like (4^2) - ((x^2)^2)?

You're supposed to square (4 - x2), which would be (4 - x2)2.
 
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LCKurtz said:
The vertical distance between two curves is ##y_{upper}-y_{lower}##. What is that in this problem? What is its square? That's what goes in the integrand as ##\pi r^2dx##.

twoski said:
Am i supposed to be squaring (4-x^2)^2 = (16 - 8x^2 + x^4) or should i be squaring them individually, like (4^2) - ((x^2)^2)?

The answer is in my quoted post.
 

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