Finding Volume Using the Disk Method

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The discussion revolves around finding the volume of a solid generated by revolving a region bounded by the curves y = x^2 and y = 4x - x^2 around the line y = 6, utilizing the disk method.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the setup of the integral for volume calculation, discussing the correct expression for the radius of rotation and the area of the disks involved. There is a focus on the algebraic manipulation of the expressions and the integration process.

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Some participants provide guidance on the correct setup of the integral and clarify the interpretation of the radius of rotation. There is an acknowledgment of potential algebraic errors in the original poster's calculations, and further algebraic details are shared to assist in understanding the problem.

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Participants note the importance of correctly identifying the inner and outer radii when setting up the integral, and there is a mention of how visualizing the problem can aid in understanding the setup.

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Hi all, first time here. Huzzah! Looking for help setting up the integral for this:

1. Find the volume of the solid generated by revolving the region bounded by y = x^2 and y = 4x - x^2 around the line y = 6.

2. V = π ʃ [f(x)]^2 dx

3. I've tried every variation of:

π ʃ [(x^2 - 6)^2 - (4x - x^2)^2] dx (0, 2)

and

π ʃ [(x^2 - 6)^2 - (4x - x^2 - 6)^2] dx (0, 2)

I can think of.
 
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The second is correct. Since you are rotating around the line y= 6, 6- f(x) is the 'radius' of rotation. [itex]|x^2- 6|[/itex] is the distance from y= 6 to [itex]y= x^2[/itex] so the area of the disk is [itex]\pi(x^2-6)^2[/itex]. [itex]|4x- x^2- 6|[/itex] is the distance from y= 6 to [itex]y= 4x- x^2[/itex] so the area of the disk is [itex]\pi(4x-x^2-6)^2[/itex]. The area of the "washer" between them is [itex]\pi((x^2- 6)^2- (4x-x^2-6)^2[/itex] so the whole volume is
[tex]\pi\int [(x^2- 6)^2- (4x-x^2- 6)^2]dx[/tex]

Now, you say you "tried" that. Exactly what did you do?
 
HallsofIvy said:
Now, you say you "tried" that. Exactly what did you do?
I did the algebra:

[tex](x^2 - 6)^2 = x^4 - 12x^2 + 36[/tex]
[tex](4x-x^2 - 6)^2 = x^4 - 8x^3 + 28x^2 - 48x + 36[/tex]
[tex](x^4 - 12x^2 + 36) - (x^4 - 8x^3 + 28x^2 - 48x + 36) = 8x^3 - 40x^2 - 48x[/tex]

Then I integrated:

[tex]\pi\int (8x^3 - 40x^2 - 48x) dx = \pi(2x^4 - (40/3)x^3 - 24x^2)[/tex]

Then I plugged the interval (0, 2) into it:

[tex]\pi(2(2)^4 - (40/3)(2)^3 - 24(2)^2) = \pi(64/3)[/tex]

...which is exactly what the textbook says. *sigh* I feel very foolish; I must have made an algebra mistake during the last step. Thanks anyway!
 
1d20 said:
π ʃ [(x^2 - 6)^2 - (4x - x^2 - 6)^2] dx (0, 2)

As a picky point that makes no difference in this problem (and which HallsofIvey pointed out), the 6 and the functions above should be reversed, which can be seen if you draw the pictures and look at the radius of the inner and the outer.

π ʃ [(6-x^2)^2 - (6-4x + x^2)^2] dx

Since they are squared here, it makes no difference, but it would make a difference when you are using the method of cylindrical shells.
 

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