First natural frequency for bending, axial and torsion modes

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The discussion focuses on calculating the first natural frequency for bending, axial, and torsional modes of a rod fixed at one end with a mass at the other end. The equations used include the natural frequency formula Wn=sqrt(k/m) for bending, where k is derived from the rod's dimensions and material properties. For axial vibrations, the rod behaves like a spring with k=EA/L, and for torsional vibrations, k is calculated using k=πGD^4 / 32L. The mass in question is an AISI 1005 steel ball with a diameter of 8 mm.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of natural frequency calculations
  • Familiarity with mass-spring systems
  • Knowledge of material properties, specifically Young's modulus (E) and shear modulus (G)
  • Basic concepts of axial and torsional vibrations
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  • Research the derivation of bending stiffness k using k=EA/L
  • Learn about torsional stiffness calculations using k=πGD^4 / 32L
  • Study longitudinal vibrations of rods and their natural frequencies
  • Explore the concept of moment of inertia in relation to torsional dynamics
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Homework Statement


We have a rod of length L fixed to a rigid support. At the end of the rod there is a mass, m. Assume that the rod has no mass. Find the first natural frequency for the bending, axial and torsion modes.

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So I'm reviewing some stuff from my undergraduate degree as I will be taking night classes for my master's in systems and controls next year. I'm doing some very basic stuff but wowzie is it difficult to remember some of this stuff that I haven't seen since I graduated.

So let's take the first part, that I think that I remember. For bending you can set up the problem as

mx'' = kx - mg

This is of a familiar form and we can see that for a simple mass-spring system the natural frequency is

Wn=sqrt(k/m)

So for a 1 DOF system we have found the 1st natural frequency. Is this correct?

I'm not sure what they mean by the axial one. Would I simply assume that the rod is acting as a spring and that the mass m is pushing down on it?

And for the torsional one would I just adjust my k to be the torsional value, but where does the supposed torque come from?
 
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Feodalherren said:
For bending you can set up the problem as
mx'' = kx - mg
Sure, but the interesting part is the formula for determining k from the dimensions of the rod and the properties of the material.
Feodalherren said:
for the torsional one would I just adjust my k to be the torsional value,
This is a strange one to ask for a point mass on the end of a rod. There is no rotational inertia. Is that what you meant by no torque? Assume the mass has some moment of inertia and replace m with I. Again, the interesting part is the formula for k.
Feodalherren said:
not sure what they mean by the axial one.
That would be longitudinal vibration of the rod, like a spring.
 
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Thanks. I know how to find the formulas for k, it's not a problem. I just wanted to make sure that I had the basic problem down. It's not really a point mass. I was just simplifying it to see if what I was doing was accurate.

The mass is an AISI 1005 steel ball with diameter of 8 mm. So it's just as simple as using the torsional k?
 
Bending k = EA/L
Axial load k = EA/L
Torsional k = πGD4 / 32L
 
Feodalherren said:
Bending k = EA/L
Not sure what EA is here. (I am not an engineer.) I am familiar with a formula like 3EI/L3.
 
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