First & Second derivative of a function

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The problem involves finding the first and second derivatives of the function Sh(t) = 30[cos(16.04*)]t, which models the horizontal position of a pellet over time. The discussion centers around the application of differentiation rules, particularly in relation to trigonometric functions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the differentiation of the given function, with some attempting to apply the limit definition of derivatives. Questions arise regarding the correct application of differentiation rules, especially in the context of trigonometric functions and constants.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the differentiation process, with some participants providing insights into the rules for derivatives. One participant expresses confusion about the limit notation and its implications for the problem setup. Another participant indicates they have resolved their confusion regarding derivative rules.

Contextual Notes

One participant notes that the original problem may have been misrepresented, as it did not include a limit next to the function, which could affect the interpretation of the derivatives. There is also mention of a word document attachment for formatting purposes.

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Homework Statement


The function Sh(t) = 30[cos(16.04*)]t models the horizantal position of a pellet with respect to time.

Find the first & second derivatives of Sh(t).



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The Attempt at a Solution

I attached a word document because I lack the ability to put together a correctly formatted latex doc in my post. I apologize for the inconvenience. Thank you in advance.

Joe




 

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Sh(t) = 30[cos(16.04*)]t
1st derivative 30cos(16.04)
2nd 0
If the t is in the cos function, then
1st 16.04*30*(-sin16.04t)
2nd 16.04^2*30*(-cos16.04t)
 
The first term in the numerator of your limit should be [itex]30(\cos 16.04^\circ)(t+\Delta t)[/itex], so [itex]\Delta t[/itex] gets multiplied by the constant.
 
I didn't download the paper. I just responded to what the derivatices would be based on what is giving. You need to do the limit definition to obtain the derivatives?
 
So for my first derivative I get to an answer of delta t/delta t, which I'm sure isn't correct. Are there some rules for differentiating when trig functions are involved that differs from a function say f(x)=x^3 ? Also I posted this question incorrectly as I was going off memory the first time. In the real problem there is no limit written next to the function, does this change things at all? I figured that equation without a limit is just the slope of a secant line. Thanks in advance.

Joe
 
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I figured it out. I was missing some rules for derivatives such as f(x)= a constant * a variable, then f'(x) =the constant. Another one was f'(x) of a constant =0. This is of course what Dustin was trying to tell me, I just couldn't put it together from that context. Thanks for your help gentlemen.

Joe
 

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