First test of divergence lim n-> n / 8^n

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The discussion focuses on the convergence of the series n / 8^n as n approaches infinity. The initial claim suggests a limit of 8/49, which is confirmed by others as correct if interpreted as the sum from n=0 to infinity. Various tests for convergence are discussed, including L'Hôpital's rule and the ratio test, with the latter indicating convergence since the limit of the ratio is less than 1. Additionally, references to D'Alembert's ratio test are made, emphasizing its utility in determining convergence. The overall consensus is that the series converges, with specific methods outlined for reaching that conclusion.
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Homework Statement


n / 8^n

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The Attempt at a Solution


It converges to 8 / 49? Not sure how.

First test of divergence
lim n-> n / 8^n. infinity / infinity = 1. BUT bottom grows fast.
Using L`Hospital
lim n -> 1 / 3*8^n*ln(2) ---> goes to 0

Tried to use the ratio test

[ 1 / 3*8^(n+1)*ln(2) ] * [ 3*8^n*ln(2) ]
1/8 is left from the ratio test
 
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What do you mean by "n / 8^n".
This is not a clear problem statement.
And how did you come to guessing the solution as 8/49?

Do you mean you have to calculate Sum[n / 8^n,{n,0,Infinity}] ?
If this is what you mean, then indeed 8/49 is the correct answer.
(I did more effort to guess what you meant than yourself to explain your need)

My hint:

Sum[1 / 8^n,{n,0,Infinity}] is an easy series
Sum[1 / 8^(x*n),{n,0,Infinity}] is just as easy
Sum[n / 8^(x*n),{n,0,Infinity}] is related to the previous one by a simple operation
Sum[n / 8^n,{n,0,Infinity}] is a special case of the previous
 
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lalbatros said:
My hint:

Sum[1 / 8^n,{n,0,Infinity}] is an easy series
Sum[1 / 8^(x*n),{n,0,Infinity}] is just as easy
Sum[n / 8^(x*n),{n,0,Infinity}] is related to the previous one by a simple operation
Sum[n / 8^n,{n,0,Infinity}] is a special case of the previous
That's cute. I would have used (x/8)^n, myself.
 
this series obviously converges.
Here is a little analysis on how to come to this conclusion.
Are you familiar with Dallambers covergence test( i am not sure if it is spelled dallamber, however)?
It states that if limn->infinity a_(n+1)/a_n is larger than 1 it diverges, if it is smaller than 1, and positive it converges. so

lim n->infinitya_n+1/a_n=lim n->infinity[8^n(n+1)]/[8n*8^n]=lim n->infinity(n+1)/8n=1/8<1, so the series converges
 
d'Alembert's ratio test
see wiki
 
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