Fluid Dynamics: Pressure / Opening a hatch underwater

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When calculating the force needed to open a hatch underwater, the relevant pressure is the difference between the external and internal pressures. In this scenario, with an external pressure of 2 atm and an internal pressure of 1 atm, the force required to open the hatch is based on the pressure difference of 1 atm. The formula to use is F = (Po - Pi)S, where Po is the external pressure and Pi is the internal pressure. The discussion emphasizes the importance of accurately understanding pressure dynamics in fluid mechanics. Ultimately, the force needed to open the hatch is determined by the pressure differential, not just the external pressure alone.
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Let's say that you're deep under the surface of the water in a submarine type thing.

There is a hatch on the top.

Let's say that the absolute pressure on the top of the hatch was calculated to be 2 atm.

Inside the vessel, the pressure is only 1 atm.

Someone is inside the vessel and the force needed to open the hatch must be calculated.

Do you need to take into account the pressure inside the vessel?

P = F/A

Do you plug in 2 atm, or 1 atm?

My physics teacher said that you only look at the pressure on the outside, but he does not remember why.
 
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Farzan said:
My physics teacher said that you only look at the pressure on the outside, but he does not remember why.

Then why is he teaching physics? :confused:
I know pretty much nothing about anything, but I do know that the force required to open the hatch is based upon the ratio of interior/exterior pressure.
 
Danger said:
... the force required to open the hatch is based upon the ratio of interior/exterior pressure.

Not the ratio. The difference: F= (Po-Pi)S
 
Good catch. I have to start being more accurate in my terminology. After a few beers I get sloppy.
 
Wouldn't you take the difference in pressure? You have 2 atm pushing in and 1 atm pushing out, requiring you to push through 1 atm to open the hatch, right?
 
Deathwing said:
Wouldn't you take the difference in pressure? You have 2 atm pushing in and 1 atm pushing out, requiring you to push through 1 atm to open the hatch, right?
Realize that you are responding to a thread that's been dormant for almost a year. In any case, the point about needing the difference in pressure was made by lpfr in post #3.
 
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