Fluid Mechanics & Flow: A Deeper Understanding

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The discussion highlights the limited coverage of fluid mechanics in typical physics curricula, prompting interest in deeper study of the subject, particularly in areas like plasma physics. Recommendations for study include foundational texts such as V.L. Streeter's "Fluid Mechanics" and Acheson's "Fluid Dynamics," which are considered more accessible than Landau's advanced texts. Participants suggest exploring course offerings in nearby engineering departments, particularly in mechanical or aerospace engineering, for more structured learning opportunities. Independent study options are also encouraged, with advice to consult faculty for guidance and resources, as personal mentorship can enhance understanding and provide valuable academic connections. Online resources, including lecture notes and free textbooks, are mentioned as additional tools for self-study.
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It appears to me that a typical physics curriculum only touches upon topics from fluid mechanics very briefly in the introductory level physics. However, I imagine that the material there is very interesting and potentially relevant (plasma physics, etc).

If I wanted to get a deeper appreciation and understanding of these fields, what are the good topics to study? Could you recommend books, etc.
 
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Does your department offer a junior or senior course on the subject? Perhaps under the title astrophysical/geophysical fluid dynamics, or perhaps check the mechanical engineering department.

The book I was recommended in my course was Landau's, technically the bible of this subject but it's pretty tough and requires a lot of time to understand, so I relied on my notes(basically a brief summary of the first 4-5 chapters and a few other things) mostly. There are more accessible books out there but I never relied on them much.

Try googling for course lecture notes on google, some are a pretty decent intro.
 
Lavabug said:
Does your department offer a junior or senior course on the subject? Perhaps under the title astrophysical/geophysical fluid dynamics, or perhaps check the mechanical engineering department.

The book I was recommended in my course was Landau's, technically the bible of this subject but it's pretty tough and requires a lot of time to understand, so I relied on my notes(basically a brief summary of the first 4-5 chapters and a few other things) mostly. There are more accessible books out there but I never relied on them much.

Try googling for course lecture notes on google, some are a pretty decent intro.

I go to SLAC, so we only have Physics major, no engineering. Incidentally, I do have the Landau's books. Judging by my exposure to his Mechanics and QM, I probably do not want to make it the first book to learn from.
 
One of the long time introductory college texts for the subject was V.L. Streeter's 'Fluid Mechanics'. It has gone through at least nine editions. IMO, FM is not a subject where I would recommend that one jump into an advanced text without taking a dip in the shallow end of the pool first. The study of FM requires a thorough background in the calculus.
 
I suggest Acheson's "Fluid Dynamics". Our senior level intro fluids course for physicists uses it. It's very insightful. The course is taught by a prof. who studies astrophysical plasmas, so I assume the book would give you the beginnings of the fluid foundation you need to study plasma physics.
 
YAHA said:
I go to SLAC, so we only have Physics major, no engineering. Incidentally, I do have the Landau's books. Judging by my exposure to his Mechanics and QM, I probably do not want to make it the first book to learn from.
SLAC = Stanford? If so, Stanford has Mechanical and Aeronautical Engineering programs. One could take a course in fluid mechanics in MechEng or gas dynamics in MechEng or AeroEng.

And Stanford has a gas dynamics lab.
http://navier.stanford.edu/thermosciences/htgl.html

Most large metropolitan areas have universities with engineering programs.
 
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Astronuc said:
SLAC = Stanford? If so, Stanford has Mechanical and Aeronautical Engineering programs. One could take a course in fluid mechanics in MechEng or gas dynamics in MechEng or AeroEng.

And Stanford has a gas dynamics lab.
http://navier.stanford.edu/thermosciences/htgl.html

Most large metropolitan areas have universities with engineering programs.

Ha! I wish :cool: SLAC="Small Liberal Arts College"
 
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Is there an engineering school nearby?

Otherwise, one would need a faculty member who would teach fluid mechanics.

I presume the SLAC offers a BA in physics.
 
Astronuc said:
Is there an engineering school nearby?

Otherwise, one would need a faculty member who would teach fluid mechanics.

I presume the SLAC offers a BA in physics.

Not nearby enough to take a class from.

Yes, I am doing a BS in Math and Physics. We just don't have such a course on our roster. However, I will be doing an Independent Study in Advanced Classical Mechanics next semester, so I thought about possibly looking at some Fluid Mechanics topics as a part of it.
 
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You might ask the faculty in your department for recommended resources - you may strike up an opportunity for directed study. Especially at a SLAC (nice acronym) the professors may be open to this. While books on your own can be fine, there is nothing like having some guidance! It would also give you another good relationship with a prof. that may come in handy for references for jobs/grad schools.

One additional book resource: an online book on fluids for undergrad physicists can be found at:
http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching.html
Might not be what you want, but the price is right. ON the surface it looks reasonable to me. Even has homework problems.

best regards,

jason
 
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jasonRF said:
You might ask the faculty in your department for recommended resources - you may strike up an opportunity for directed study. Especially at a SLAC (nice acronym) the professors may be open to this. While books on your own can be fine, there is nothing like having some guidance! It would also give you another good relationship with a prof. that may come in handy for references for jobs/grad schools.

One additional book resource: an online book on fluids for undergrad physicists can be found at:
http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching.html
Might not be what you want, but the price is right. ON the surface it looks reasonable to me. Even has homework problems.

best regards,

jason

Thank you. The book does look interesting.

I will already be doing an independent study. At this point, I am just looking for some interesting topics to cover since I have a bit of a choice.
 
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