[Fluid mechanics] Navier-Stokes and Hagen-Poiseuille

In summary, the conversation discusses the use of equations for describing viscous incompressible free-falling vertical jets and the effectiveness of the Bernoulli equation for calculating velocity with varying viscosities. The individual is unsure of which viscosity to use for their experiment and is considering using the Hagen-Poiseuille equation instead. However, it is mentioned that this equation may not apply if the circular cross section varies from two points due to the fluid being in free fall.
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Can the Hagen-Poiseuille equation be used for a vertical flow in the water tab or any flow that has circular cross-sections with varying diameters? If not, how can the Navier-Stokes equations or any other equations be used to describe a viscous incompressible free-falling vertical jet?
 
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What are your thoughts on how to approach this problem? What is the order of magnitude of the viscosity you are considering?
 
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I honestly don't know what viscosity we should use yet. We're preparing a little experiment to show that Bernoulli equation can be used to calculate velocity for liquid with low viscosity. We also want to calculate the flow rate of the jet this time with viscous liquid. The idea is to show that the Bernoulli equation becomes less effective. Now we're wondering if we could use the Hagen-Poiseuille equation to do the job instead this time considering the viscosity. Do you know if this equation still works if the circular cross section varies from two points?
 
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ChaoY said:
I honestly don't know what viscosity we should use yet. We're preparing a little experiment to show that Bernoulli equation can be used to calculate velocity for liquid with low viscosity. We also want to calculate the flow rate of the jet this time with viscous liquid. The idea is to show that the Bernoulli equation becomes less effective. Now we're wondering if we could use the Hagen-Poiseuille equation to do the job instead this time considering the viscosity. Do you know if this equation still works if the circular cross section varies from two points?
If the fluid is in free fall, the hagen poiseulle equation doesn't apply because there is no stationary solid pipe wall.
 

1. What is the Navier-Stokes equation?

The Navier-Stokes equation is a fundamental equation in fluid mechanics that describes the motion of viscous fluids. It takes into account the effects of pressure, viscosity, and inertia on the velocity and pressure fields of a fluid.

2. What is the significance of the Navier-Stokes equation?

The Navier-Stokes equation is important in many engineering and scientific applications, such as predicting the flow of air around an airplane wing or the flow of blood through blood vessels. It is also used in the study of weather patterns and ocean currents.

3. What are the assumptions made in the Navier-Stokes equation?

The Navier-Stokes equation assumes that the fluid is incompressible, the flow is steady and laminar, and the fluid has constant density and viscosity. It also assumes that the fluid is Newtonian, meaning that the viscosity is constant and does not depend on the shear rate.

4. What is the Hagen-Poiseuille equation?

The Hagen-Poiseuille equation is a simplified version of the Navier-Stokes equation that describes the flow of a viscous, incompressible fluid through a cylindrical pipe. It takes into account the effects of pressure and viscosity on the velocity and pressure fields of the fluid.

5. What are some practical applications of the Hagen-Poiseuille equation?

The Hagen-Poiseuille equation is commonly used in engineering applications, such as designing pipes and channels for fluid flow in plumbing, HVAC systems, and chemical processing. It is also used in medical applications, such as understanding blood flow through arteries and veins.

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