Fluid mechanics study navier stokes

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The discussion centers around the Navier-Stokes equations within the context of fluid mechanics, focusing on problem-solving resources and textbook recommendations. Participants share their experiences and suggest various texts that include solutions to problems related to fluid flow, particularly around plates and cylinders.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant, Josh, seeks additional practice problems on the Navier-Stokes equations that include solutions for self-checking.
  • Chet mentions that many problems are solved in "Transport Phenomena" by Bird, Stewart, and Lightfoot, questioning if Josh is using this text.
  • Another participant notes that different fields may favor different textbooks, citing Anderson's series for aerospace and White's "Viscous Fluid Flow" for mechanical engineering.
  • Several participants recommend White's "Viscous Fluid Flow," highlighting its thorough coverage of viscous flow but noting it may not include many exercises.
  • One participant warns that while White's text has worked examples, it is primarily a graduate-level reference and lacks additional exercises.
  • Another participant suggests "Boundary-Layer Theory" by Schlichting as a similar graduate-level text with worked examples.
  • Newman’s "Marine Hydrodynamics" is mentioned as a relevant but expensive resource for inviscid fluid flow modeling.
  • Acheson's "Elementary Fluid Dynamics" is recommended, though only specific chapters are deemed relevant.
  • One participant expresses uncertainty about White's "Fluid Mechanics" but acknowledges the quality of White's other works.
  • Josh clarifies that he is not a Purdue student and confirms that his class is currently using White's "Viscous Fluid Flow." He seeks to verify his understanding through problem-solving.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the value of White's texts and other recommended resources, but there is no consensus on a single best resource, as preferences vary by discipline and individual experience.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note that the recommended texts may not align perfectly with the specific types of problems Josh is seeking, indicating a potential gap in available resources for his needs.

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hey pf!

i am studying fluid mechanics and we are reviewing navier/stokes equations. we have gone over a few problems, but i could definitely use practice on more. do you all have any suggestions that include solutions, not just answers, so if I am stuck i can see how to solve?

problems ideally are similar to this: https://engineering.purdue.edu/~wassgren/notes/NS_PracticeProblems.pdf

the kind of problems dealing with flow about plates, cylinders, and all that.

thanks!

josh
 
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for the record, the above hyperlink was something i found that was really good but no solutions. its definitely not from my class
 
joshmccraney said:
for the record, the above hyperlink was something i found that was really good but no solutions. its definitely not from my class
A lot of these problems are solved in Bird, Stewart, and Lightfoot, Transport Phenomena. Are you not using Bird as a text at Purdue?

Chet
A U of Michigan grad
 
Bird, Stewart, and Lightfoot is common in some fields like chemical engineering, but in my experience, other fields tend to treat other authors as the holy grail of fluids texts. A lot of aerospace programs, for example, use Anderson's series of textbooks ("Introduction to Flight", "Fundamentals of Aerodynamics", and "Modern Compressible Flow") for the introductory fluids courses. Most upper-level courses on viscous flow seem to use White's "Viscous Fluid Flow", which is an absolutely phenomenal book. Mechanical engineering at UIUC used Munson, Young, and Okiishi for their introductory fluids course when I was there (apparently this book has a slightly different author list now).
 
Thumbs up for White!
It was "my" book on viscous fluid flow as well.
 
Yeah. I'd definitely recommend White. It is a bit pricey though unless you can find a good deal on a used copy. It seems the price has practically doubled since I bought it, and that was only, perhaps, 5 or 6 years ago. It also has a fair number of solutions of the Navier-Stokes equations if I recall. It won't have things like the OP's example of water flowing down a wall touching air, but once you understand the basics like Couette flow, that is an easy problem anyway.

So yeah, to the OP, the book in question is this one: Viscous Fluid Flow by White.

A word of warning, though. It does have the basic examples worked out like Couette flow and Hagen-Poiseuille flow, but it doesn't have any exercises or other standard examples, as it is really meant as more of a graduate text and reference text, but its coverage of viscous fluid flow is phenomenal.

A similar text would be Boundary-Layer Theory by Schlichting. It has another comprehensive set of worked out basic flows but it again is more of a graduate/reference text and doesn't have any additional examples.

Otherwise, some of the other undergraduate-type texts like Transport Phenomena by Bird, Stewart, and Lightfoot (as Chestermiller recommends), Fundamentals of Fluid Mechanics by Munson, Rothmayer, Okiishi, and Huebsch, or https://www.amazon.com/dp/0073398101/?tag=pfamazon01-20 may be more what you are looking for depending on which discipline you are studying. Maybe check your school's library for these books as they are very common and will certainly be available as long as they aren't already checked out. You would also need to find a solutions manual for these if you want the answers to the exercises though.
 
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Although it is, more relevant for applications for inviscid fluid flow modelling, rather than NS, I cannot avoid recommending Newman "Marine Hydrodynamics" as well.
Damn pricey, though.
 
I suppose I should also toss out Fluid Mechanics by White. I don't have any personal experience with this book, but White's other books (e.g. Viscous Flow) are high quality and I have heard good things about it.
 
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thanks for the replies and suggestions! i actually don't go to purdue; i just found the link from google. also, our class is currently using white's viscous fluid flow. i feel i have a good understanding but would like to be able to check my work through the problem to ensure my logic is correct.
 

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