Flux integral on a radial vector field

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The discussion centers on calculating flux integrals over radial vector fields, specifically for spheres S1 and S2 with radii 9 and 81, respectively. The flux integral ∫∫S1F⋅dS equals 4, where the magnitude of the radial force field F is inversely proportional to the square of the distance from the origin. For part A, the flux integral over S2 remains 4, while part B reveals that a magnitude of F inversely proportional to the cube of the distance does not yield a valid result. The discussion emphasizes the importance of understanding the conditions under which the flux integral formula applies, particularly the radial and spherically symmetric nature of the vector field.

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(The S1 after the double integral is supposed to be underneath them btw, I just can't seem to do it right using LaTeX right now so bear with me please.)

Suppose F is a radial force field, S1 is a sphere of radius 9 centered at the origin, and the flux integral ∫∫S1F⋅dS=4.
Let S2 be a sphere of radius 81 centered at the origin, and consider the flux integral ∫∫S2F⋅dS.

(A) If the magnitude of F is inversely proportional to the square of the distance from the origin,what is the value of ∫∫S2F⋅dS?

(B) If the magnitude of F is inversely proportional to the cube of the distance from the origin, what is the value of ∫∫S2F⋅dS?


2. The attempt at a solution

So the flux integral over S1 has a value of 4. The Flux integral can be evaluated by multiplying the magnitude of F times the surface area of the sphere: 4pi r^2. Solving for the magnitude of F I get that it's (1/pi r^2).

For part A, I just used this magnitude because it matches the fact that it has to be inversely proportional to the square of the distance from the radius. And so I got the right answer which is 4.

For part B however just increasing the proportionality to be (1/pi r^3) doesn't work, so I don't know what I'm missing here.

I'd like to know first, how we know that the flux integral is equal to the magnitude of F times the surface area of whatever given surface there is. I was just told this, and I can't find it on the textbook, so I'd like to first understand what is the methodology used behind solving this problem.

Thank you. Also, does anyone know of a resource similar to Paul's Online Math Notes that would cover Surface Integral more thoroughly?
 
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Raziel2701 said:
The Flux integral can be evaluated by multiplying the magnitude of F times the surface area of the sphere: 4pi r^2.

This is only true if \textbf{F} is both radial (so that it is normal to the surface) and spherically symmetric. Otherwise, \int_{\mathcal{S}_1}\textbf{F}\cdot d\textbf{S}\neq 4\pi r^2F.
 
the 1/r potential leads to a 1/r^2 radial vector field which is the form of many physical fields (gravity, electric etc.). This is a special field as you've shown as ttal flux is conserved, under certian condition, in this case for any bounded surface containing the origin.

Then as you've found the 1/r^3 magnitude radial field does not have that property...

Do you know about divergence, and the divergence theorem?
 

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