Flywheel and Gearbox Coupling Help

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a homework problem involving the calculation of torque in a gearbox and flywheel system. Participants explore the relationships between angular velocities, torque, and power, specifically focusing on how to determine the holding torque required to keep the gearbox stationary.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant outlines the problem, providing initial calculations for angular velocity, angular acceleration, moment of inertia, and torque for both the output and input shafts.
  • Another participant suggests reviewing worked examples to understand the transition from input power to holding torque.
  • A different participant proposes a method to calculate input power using the torque and angular velocity of the input shaft, suggesting a conversion from output speed to find the necessary input angular velocity.
  • A later reply indicates that the previous calculation was incorrect but does not provide further details on the correct approach.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the correct method for calculating the holding torque, and there are indications of disagreement regarding the accuracy of certain calculations.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the relationships between torque, power, and angular velocity remain unverified, and the discussion does not resolve the discrepancies in calculations presented by participants.

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Homework Statement


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I've been working my way through the following question but I am a little bit stuck at this part:

A gearbox and flywheel are as shown in FIGURE 4. The output shaft rotates in the opposite direction to the input shaft at 5 times its speed. The gearbox has an efficiency of 92%.

If the flywheel is solid, has a mass of 50 kg, a diameter of 1.5 m and is to accelerate from rest to 300 revs min–1 in 1 minute:

Calculate the magnitude and direction of the torque required to hold the gearbox stationary (holding torque Th).

Homework Equations


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Input shaft rotating clockwise.
Output shaft rotating anti-clockwise.

Input Angular Velocity W1 = 0 RAD/s
Final Angular Velocity W2 = (300*2π)/60
Final Angular Velocity W2 = 31.42 RAD/s

Angular Acceleration α = (W2 - W1)/t
Angular Acceleration α = (31.42 - 0)/60
Angular Acceleration α = 0.52 RAD/s

Moment of inertia for solid disc I = 1/2*MR2
Moment of inertia for solid disc I = 0.5*50*0.752
Moment of inertia for solid disc I = 14.06 KG/m2

Torque of output shaft T2 = I*α
Torque of output shaft T2 = 14.06*0.52
Torque of output shaft T2 = 7.3Nm
Regarding gearbox efficiency T2 = (7.3/100)*92
Therefore T2 = 6.716Nm

Torque of input shaft T1 = T2 * 5
Torque of input shaft T1 = 6.716 * 5
Torque of input shaft T1 = 33.58Nm

The Attempt at a Solution



I'm struggling because a lot of the worked examples already have input or output power, which is what I need to calculate the holding torque TH. Could I calculate the output power using T2 * W2? Thus 6.716 * 31.42 = 211Kw and work backwards from there?

Cheers!
 
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I haven't checked your arithmetic but you seem to be doing ok so far.

Take a look at your worked examples again. How do they get from input power to holding torque?
 
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By using the angular velocity Wi: input power = Ti * Wi.

I'm guessing to get Wi that you divide the output speed by 5, so 300/5 = 60. Then convert to RAD/s to get 6.283 RAD/s.

Then placing that into input power formula: 33.58 * 6.283 = 210.98 Watts.

Is that correct?
 
Don't worry, I've figured it out. The above post is incorrect anyway. Thanks for the hint :)
 

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