Force couples - Finding resultant couple

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a homework problem involving the calculation of the resultant couple acting on a steel plate supported by idler rollers. Participants explore the application of principles from mechanics to determine the resultant couple based on given forces and distances.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • The initial poster describes the setup and attempts to calculate the resultant moment using the formula for moments, but expresses uncertainty about their result.
  • Another participant identifies a potential error in the initial measurements related to the pulleys' radius affecting the lines of action.
  • The second participant outlines their plan to set the sum of moments equal to a specific value and solve for a variable, seeking feedback on their approach.
  • A later reply confirms that the second participant successfully solved both parts of the problem.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the initial calculations, but there is agreement on the eventual resolution of the problem by one participant.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the accuracy of measurements and the interpretation of the problem setup, particularly concerning the lines of action and distances involved.

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Homework Statement


The steel plate shown supports six 2 in. - diameter idler rollers mounted on the plate as shown. Two flat belts pass around the rollers, and rollers A and D are adjusted so that the tension in each belt is 10 lb. Determine (a) the resultant couple acting on the plate is a = 8 in., (b) the value of a so that the resultant couple acting on the plate is 480 lbin. clockwise.

It is problem 3.70 in the image.

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/5109/problem3701.th.jpg

Here also is a link to the pdf: "[URL title="download file from Jumala Files"]http://jumalafiles.info/showfile2-46942995970229528183533325984723086/problem370.pdf [/URL]


Homework Equations


\vec{M_{C}} = \vec{r} \times \vec{F} = \vec{F}d
\vec{M_{R}} = \vec{M_{1}} + \vec{M_{2}} + \vec{M_{3}} + . . .

The Attempt at a Solution



I found the perpendicular distance in between the lines of action, d, for each couple. For the force couple that is horizontal the distance is 16 in. if a is 8 in. and for the angled couple i chose to find the distance between points F and C. Using the Pythagorean theorem if found this distance to be about 22.6 in. Using the right hand rule I found that both moments are clockwise.

Now using \vec{M_{C}} = \vec{F}d and summing all of the moments I find the resultant moment to be 386.3 lbin. which isn't right. What am I doing wrong here?
 
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I figured out part a after looking at the diagram for a while and realizing the significance of the diameter of the pulleys. The points on the diagram that I was measuring from are not located on the lines of action but are a pulley's radius away. :smile:

For part two I will set the sum of both of my moments equal to -480lb*in and then put their d's in terms of a and solve for a.

Are there any flaws in this approach?

Thanks in advance,

KEØM
 
Did you get the right answer yet, or not?
 
Sorry nvn, yes I did for both parts.

Thanks for asking,

KEØM
 

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