Force from two point charges on a third one

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The discussion revolves around calculating the resulting force on a point charge (Q_3) due to two other point charges (Q_1 and Q_2) arranged in an isosceles triangle configuration. The problem involves applying Coulomb's law and the principle of superposition to determine the forces acting on Q_3 for two scenarios: when Q_2 equals Q_1 and when Q_2 equals -Q_1.

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  • The original poster attempts to derive the force on Q_3 using vector calculations based on the positions of the charges and the relevant equations. Some participants question the clarity of the calculations and suggest visualizing the forces through sketches and numerical examples to validate the results.

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The discussion appears to be progressing with participants engaging in the verification of the calculations. One participant has confirmed the correctness of the approach, while another has expressed intent to further explore the problem by plugging in numbers and sketching the vectors.

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No specific constraints or missing information have been noted, but the discussion reflects an emphasis on understanding the behavior of forces in the context of the given charge configurations.

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Homework Statement



We have three point charges Q_1, Q_2, Q_3, forming together an isosceles triangle. Two sides are of equal length r.
The point charge Q_1 is located at (0,0),
the point charge Q_2 is located at (x_2,0)
and The point charge Q_3 is located at (\frac{x_2}{2},\sqrt{r^2 - ({\frac{x_2}{2}})^2}).

Calculate the resulting force on Q_3 for the cases Q_2 = Q_1 and Q_2 = - Q_1.

Homework Equations



I think two formulas are relevant. Coulombs law and the superposition principle.

The Attempt at a Solution



From the Superposition principle and Coulombs law we have:

\vec{F}_3 = \frac{1}{4 \pi \epsilon_0} Q_3 Q_1 \frac{\vec{x}_3 - \vec{x}_1}{|\vec{x}_3 - \vec{x}_1|^3} + \frac{1}{4 \pi \epsilon_0} Q_3 Q_2 \frac{\vec{x}_3 - \vec{x}_2}{|\vec{x}_3 - \vec{x}_2|^3},
where \vec{F}_3 is the resulting force on Q_3.

Next, I calculated \vec{x}_3 - \vec{x}_1 = (\frac{x_2}{2},\sqrt{r^2 - ({\frac{x_2}{2}})^2})

and \vec{x}_3 - \vec{x}_2 = (-(\frac{x_2}{2}),\sqrt{r^2 - ({\frac{x_2}{2}})^2}).

Then I calculated the norm of both to get |\vec{x}_3 - \vec{x}_1| = |\vec{x}_3 - \vec{x}_2| = r.

So I get for \vec{F}_3,

\vec{F}_3 = \frac{1}{4 \pi \epsilon_0} \frac{Q_3 Q_1}{r^3} (\frac{x_2}{2},\sqrt{r^2 - ({\frac{x_2}{2}})^2}) + \frac{1}{4 \pi \epsilon_0} \frac{Q_3 Q_2}{r^3} (-\frac{x_2}{2},\sqrt{r^2 - ({\frac{x_2}{2}})^2})

Now for Q_2 = Q_1:

\vec{F}_3 = \frac{1}{4 \pi \epsilon_0} \frac{Q_3 Q_1}{r^3}( (\frac{x_2}{2},\sqrt{r^2 - ({\frac{x_2}{2}})^2}) + (-\frac{x_2}{2},\sqrt{r^2 - ({\frac{x_2}{2}})^2}))

thus,
\vec{F}_3 = \frac{1}{4 \pi \epsilon_0} \frac{Q_3 Q_1}{r^3}( 0,2 \sqrt{r^2 - ({\frac{x_2}{2}})^2}).

And for the case Q_2 = - Q_1:
\vec{F}_3 = \frac{1}{4 \pi \epsilon_0} \frac{Q_3 Q_1}{r^3} (x_2,0).

Is this correct? What do you think?
 
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Can you edit your post and remove all the extra blank homework template stuff?

It will be easier on the eyes.
 
Ok! Done!
 
it looks right. Have you plugged some numbers in and sketched the vectors on paper to see if the result looks reasonable?

When the two charges are the same then the third charge will either move away or be attracted to the other two. In either case, the force will be along the center line through the isoseles triangle.

When the two charges are different then the third charge will move on a line going thru the third charge and parallel to the line going thru the two other charges initially. The resultant force should be parallel to these lines.
 
Thanks jedishrfu! I'll plug in some numbers and draw the vector to reproduce your argument!
Thanks again!
 

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