Force of Friction on an Inclined Plane

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a block of lead on an inclined plane, focusing on potential energy, kinetic energy, work done by friction, and the coefficient of friction. Participants are analyzing the energy transformations and losses due to friction as the block moves down the incline.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of potential energy and kinetic energy, questioning the energy lost to friction. There is exploration of how to relate the energy lost to the work done by friction and the implications of these calculations.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants examining the relationship between potential energy, kinetic energy, and work done by friction. Some guidance has been offered regarding the energy balance, but no consensus has been reached on the exact calculations or methods to find the work done by friction.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information they can use or the methods they can apply. The problem setup includes specific values for mass, speed, incline angle, and distance, which are central to their calculations.

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Homework Statement


The diagram shows a 5kg block of lead released from rest at the top of an incline. The block has a speed of 6 m/s when it reaches the bottom. The angle between the slope and the ground is 40° and the slope is 10 m long.
a) What is its PE at the top?
b) What is its KE at the bottom?
c) What is the work done by friction?
d) What must be the coefficient of friction?


Homework Equations


I am having trouble finding the friction. Once i find the friction, i know how to find the coefficient force of friciton using Ffr=mu*Fn.

The Attempt at a Solution


For part a first I found what the height was by doing 10(sin(40))=Height and got 6.43 m. Than i plugged that into PE=mgh... 5(9.8)(6.43) ... getting 315.07J ...
For part b I used KE=1/2(m)(v2) ... 1/2(5)(62) ... getting 90J ...
 
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So you start with with 315 J of potential energy and zero kinetic energy. How much total energy would you have at the bottom of the incline if there were no friction?
 
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Would that still be 315 J?
 
Correct. With friction you only have 90 J. Where did the rest of the Joules go?
 
Heat is the only thing i could think of? But how do you know 90 J went to friction
 
I never said 90 J went to friction. At the bottom of the incline, you have 90 J. This means that 315-90 = 225 J went somewhere. As you say it is heat and this heat is generated by friction. So the block traveled 10 m and lost 225 J to friction. How can you use this information to find the work done by friction?
 
Well i know Work=Fd but I am not sure how to incorporate the joules..
 
The units of both work and energy are Joules.
 
so just divide by 10?
 
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Divide by 10 to get the answer to what part?
 

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