Force of interaction between caps

  • Thread starter Thread starter Saitama
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Force Interaction
Click For Summary
SUMMARY

The discussion focuses on calculating the force of interaction between two spherical caps with differing charge densities, specifically ##\rho_1## and ##\rho_2##. The participants explore various configurations, including replacing a smaller cap with a modified charge density cap, and derive expressions for the force using triple integrals. The final expression for the force is given as ##F'=\frac{\pi \rho_1 \rho_2}{3\epsilon_0}\frac{(R^2-h^2)^2}{4}##, which represents the force exerted by a full sphere of density ##\rho_2## on the cap of density ##\rho_1##. The discussion concludes with the realization that the original problem requires the force between two caps, not between a sphere and a cap.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of electrostatics and electric fields
  • Familiarity with spherical coordinates and triple integrals
  • Knowledge of charge density concepts in physics
  • Ability to manipulate and interpret mathematical expressions involving integrals
NEXT STEPS
  • Study the derivation of electric fields from charged spherical objects
  • Learn about the application of triple integrals in electrostatics
  • Explore the concept of force between charged bodies in different configurations
  • Investigate the implications of charge density variations on electric force calculations
USEFUL FOR

Students and professionals in physics, particularly those focusing on electrostatics, mathematical physics, and engineering applications involving electric fields and forces.

  • #31
Pranav used the known expression for the field inside S due to a total sphere of charge density ##\rho_2##: ##E=\rho_2r/(3\epsilon_0)##.

The z-component of this field is then ##E_z=\rho_2z/(3\epsilon_0)##. Since it only depends on z, you can get the force on the cap by integrating over disks.

##F=\int_h^R E_z (\rho_1\pi r^2) \,dz## where ##r = \sqrt{R^2-z^2}##. I get the same result as Pranav.
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: 1 person
Physics news on Phys.org
  • #32
Sorry for my indifferent behaviour towards the thread but I have a genuine reason of doing it. I was busy with my exam which was on 6th April and the subsequent days were also busy for me, I had no intention of dumping the thread. :redface:

Thank you haruspex for keeping the the thread alive!

haruspex said:
Consider two small regions X, Y in A. X1 exerts a force on Y0, while Y1 exerts an equal and opposite force on X0. Thus, there is no net force between A0 and A1.

Yes, I am agreed. Thank you for stating this, I don't think I could have thought of this argument. :)

haruspex said:
t follows that the force between A0 and B1 is the same as that between A0 and S1.
I calculated this in #13 and plugging the values doesn't seem to give me the right answer. :confused:
 
  • #33
Pranav-Arora said:
Sorry for my indifferent behaviour towards the thread but I have a genuine reason of doing it. I was busy with my exam which was on 6th April and the subsequent days were also busy for me, I had no intention of dumping the thread.

Hope you did well on your exam!

I calculated this in #13 and plugging the values doesn't seem to give me the right answer. :confused:

Uh Oh. Well, maybe haruspex can set us straight. Did you get a force of 3.33 N?
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: 1 person
  • #34
TSny said:
Uh Oh. Well, maybe haruspex can set us straight. Did you get a force of 3.33 N?

Woops, looks like I did not correctly input the values in the calculator. Thanks TSny and haruxpex! 3.33 N is the correct answer. :)
 
  • #35
TSny said:
Pranav used the known expression for the field inside S due to a total sphere of charge density ##\rho_2##: ##E=\rho_2r/(3\epsilon_0)##.
Ah, OK. I did it from first principles, but missed a cancellation of π.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
1K
Replies
21
Views
2K
Replies
6
Views
2K
  • · Replies 21 ·
Replies
21
Views
9K
  • · Replies 15 ·
Replies
15
Views
1K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
1K
Replies
20
Views
9K
Replies
5
Views
5K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
13K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
12K