Force on a point charge due to a rod

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The discussion centers on calculating the force exerted on a point charge \( q \) by a uniformly charged rod of length \( L \) at a distance \( x \). The force is derived using the equation \( F = \frac{Qq}{4 \pi \epsilon_{0} x(L+x)} \), where \( Q = \lambda L \) and \( \lambda \) is the linear charge density. As \( L \) approaches infinity, the force simplifies to \( \frac{q \lambda}{4 \pi \epsilon_{0} x} \), indicating that the force does not depend on the length of the rod but solely on the distance from it. This behavior is analogous to the electric force from half of an infinite cylinder on a point charge.

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Hvae a look at the diagram
Caluclate the force on the point charge q, due to a uniformly charged rod of length L a distance x from the point charge q. Discuss the limit when L approaches infinity with lambda = Q/L fixed.

Q = \lambda L
dQ = \lambda dL

Force of dQ on the point charge q is given by
dF = \frac{1}{4 \pi \epsilon_{0}} \frac{qdQ}{(L+x-s)^2}
no Y components since the rod is thin. SO this force is the total force in the horizontal direction only.

F = \int dF = \int_{s=0}^{s=L} \frac{1}{4 \pi \epsilon_{0}} \frac{q \lambda ds}{(L+x-s)^2}

F = \frac{q \lambda L}{4 \pi \epsilon_{0}} \frac{1}{x(L+x)}

F = \frac{Qq}{4 \pi \epsilon_{0} x(L+x)}

now for the limit where L -> infinity

i used L'Hopital's Rule and got the answer to be zero. But i find it hard to believe that that is the case. I Would think that this has something to di wth the limtis of integration being s=0 to s=infinity

im not sure however... do help

thank you in advance for your help!
 
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The mistake is pretty simple: you forgot that Q = \lambda L when you took the limit.
 
ok since lambda is fixed it turns into

\frac{q \lambda}{4 \pi \epsilon_{0} x}

now how do i interpret this? This is certainly not similar to the force due to any object on a point charge... or is it ??
 
could someone guide me to the end of the problem?

i found out htat with the inifnite length the force doesn't dpeend on the length of the rod. It only depends on the distance from the rod. This resembles the electric force due to an half of an infinite cylinder on a point charge q. Is this much of an explanation enough ?

please do help!
 
what is the conclusion for the second part where the rod is infinitely long? The force or electric field certainly do not depend on its length. Is there anything else i may have missed?
 

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