Forced to use symmetry to solve this double integral?

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The discussion focuses on the application of symmetry in solving a double integral over a semi-circle in the xy-plane. The author clarifies that the integration limits for θ should range from 0 to π/2, not π, due to the symmetry of the problem, which allows for the integration over one semi-circle while doubling the result to account for the other. Additionally, it is emphasized that the integral presented in the remark is not incorrect, but caution is necessary when evaluating square roots, as √(x²) does not equal x.

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Homework Statement



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The author writes: "Now, using symmetry, we have..."

But what symmetry does the author use? Also, I got the integral as shown in the remark but why is it wrong?
 
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ainster31 said:

Homework Statement



http://i.imgur.com/d4ViHux.png

Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution



The author writes: "Now, using symmetry, we have..."

But what symmetry does the author use? Also, I got the integral as shown in the remark but why is it wrong?

The symmetry that's used is only to integrate over only one semi-circle in the xy-plane, and not the other. That's why θ only ranges from 0 to π/2, not all the way to π. That's also why there is a factor of 2 in front of the integral: because the integral over one semi-circle should be exactly equal to the integral over the other one. This is because the portion of the hemisphere is that is above one semi-circle is equal in volume to the portion that is above the other: one portion is just the reflection of the other one across the y-axis. That is the symmetry.
 
cepheid said:
The symmetry that's used is only to integrate over only one semi-circle in the xy-plane, and not the other. That's why θ only ranges from 0 to π/2, not all the way to π. That's also why there is a factor of 2 in front of the integral: because the integral over one semi-circle should be exactly equal to the integral over the other one. This is because the portion of the hemisphere is that is above one semi-circle is equal in volume to the portion that is above the other: one portion is just the reflection of the other one across the y-axis. That is the symmetry.


Alright, but why is the integral shown in the remark incorrect?
 
What did you get when you evaluated it? The integral isn't incorrect, but you have to be careful when evaluating it to get the correct result.
 
ainster31 said:
Alright, but why is the integral shown in the remark incorrect?
You have to be careful whenever you 'execute' a square root. √(x2) is not the same as x.
 

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