Forces AND Friction AND Motion O MY

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving forces, friction, and motion. A cart with a specified mass is pushed with a given force, and participants are tasked with calculating the acceleration while considering the effects of friction.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between gravitational force and normal force, questioning the correct interpretation of the acceleration due to gravity in the context of horizontal motion. There are attempts to calculate frictional force and net force, with varying interpretations of the values involved.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights and corrections to each other's reasoning. Some guidance has been offered regarding the calculation of the normal force and its relationship to gravitational force, but there is no clear consensus on the correct approach to find the acceleration.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the implications of horizontal motion and the definitions of forces involved. There is a noted confusion regarding the signs and values of forces, particularly the gravitational force in this context.

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Homework Statement



A cart with a mass of 285 kg is pushed horizontally with a force of 1400 N. The acceleration of gravity is 9.8 m/s/s. The coefficient of friction (u) with the crate and the surface is 0.29. Calculate the acceleration of the crate.

Sooo given:

Fa: 1400 N
m: 285 kg
Fg: -9.8
u: 0.29
Ff: ?
Fn: ?
a: ?


Homework Equations



Fnet = ma
Ff = u * Fn

The Attempt at a Solution



Ok...
so if Fg is -9.8 then Fn is 9.8?
and then Ff = -(0.29)(9.8) which is -2.842?
so would Fnet = 1397.158 N?
and then do I use F = ma to find a?
so a = F/m which i got 4.9023
but the answer in the back of my textbook is 2.07028!
help please!
 
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Hi kza62! :wink:
kza62 said:
so if Fg is -9.8

no no no no noooo :cry:

-9.8 is the acceleration, isn't it? :smile:
 
not really dude, its moving horizontally, its not falling
 
kza62 said:
not really dude, its moving horizontally, its not falling

Yes, but I meant that when you wrote Fg = -9.8, I assumed that your F meant a force, so that would be -9.8m :wink:
 
ooooo okokokok but how do u get Fn?? that's the only thing i need to plug in everything else :rolleyes:
 
kza62 said:
ooooo okokokok but how do u get Fn?? that's the only thing i need to plug in everything else :rolleyes:

(just got up :zzz: …)

The ground is horizontal, so Fn (the normal force) is the same as Fg, and then Ffriction = µFn.

You know that, don't you? :smile:
 
so Ff = 0.29 x 9.8 = 2.842
and then Fnet = 1400 - 2.842 = 1397.158
a = 1397.158/285 = 4.902308... ?

what did i do wrong now?!
 
I've told you … you have to use 9.8m.
 

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