Ford, Gosling, Leto in New Blade Runner: Counting Down the Days!

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The discussion centers around anticipation for the new "Blade Runner" film featuring Ford, Gosling, and Leto, with participants expressing excitement while also voicing skepticism about sequels to cult classics. Key concerns include the potential simplification of the original's complex themes into a straightforward good vs. evil narrative. The film is directed by Denis Villeneuve, which raises hopes for a thought-provoking continuation of the story. Participants also discuss the original film's dialogue, particularly the ad-libbed lines, and the emotional depth of replicants. Overall, there is a mix of enthusiasm and caution regarding how the new film will handle the legacy of the original.
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Ford, Gosling, Leto. Can't wait!
 
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I haven't seen the original in like 15 years. I think it's time to dust it off!
 
Do you know which parts of the dialog in the original were ad lib?
 
Much better trailer than the ones that were around for a few months!

Noisy Rhysling said:
Do you know which parts of the dialog in the original were ad lib?
Are you referring to Roy's part at the end about tears in the rain?
 
BillTre said:
Much better trailer than the ones that were around for a few months!Are you referring to Roy's part at the end about tears in the rain?
Yep.

But I'll never understand why a blade runner could be ambushed by the cue pee doll routine.
 
After Prometheus, I expect another eye roller.
 
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I'm apprehensive. It's hard to pull off a sequel to a cult classic. Blade Runner leaves some open questions which makes you think about it. I'm worried that it will be turned into a simple good vs evil or save the world action flick.
 
I was seriously wondering if Harrison did his parts before he died. I got to lay off the comic book movies.
 
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The preview looked interesting, if they take the original concept in a good direction they might have a good flick. I don't really like Leto, though. Hopefully his role is similar to the one he played in American Psycho.
 
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Noisy Rhysling said:
I was seriously wondering if Harrison did his parts before he died. I got to lay off the comic book movies.
are you posting from the future? Currently Ford is still alive, at least according to my subjective present.
 
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Though doing a sequel like this does kind of ruin the mystery of his character being a Replicant or not.
 
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DHF said:
are you posting from the future? Currently Ford is still alive, at least according to my subjective present.
I was referring to his dispute with his son, Kylo.
 
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Khashishi said:
I'm apprehensive. It's hard to pull off a sequel to a cult classic. Blade Runner leaves some open questions which makes you think about it. I'm worried that it will be turned into a simple good vs evil or save the world action flick.

I understand your skepticism, but if there is a reason to be optimistic, this new film will be directed by acclaimed Quebecois (i.e. French-Canadian) filmmaker Denis Villeneuve, who has had an impressive resume thus far with both his earlier French language films (Polytechnique, Incendies) as well as his English-language films (Prisoners, Enemy, Sicario, and Arrival in particular). If any filmmaker will be able to pull off a thought-provoking sci-fi film in the manner of the original Blade Runner, it would be Villeneuve.
 
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Noisy Rhysling said:
I was referring to his dispute with his son, Kylo.
Have you seen 'The modern adventures of Han and Ben'?
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(there's a whole series)
 
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The second trailer is out.

 
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StatGuy2000 said:
... if there is a reason to be optimistic, this new film will be directed by acclaimed Quebecois (i.e. French-Canadian) filmmaker Denis Villeneuve, who has had an impressive resume thus far with both his earlier French language films (Polytechnique, Incendies) as well as his English-language films (Prisoners, Enemy, Sicario, and Arrival in particular). If any filmmaker will be able to pull off a thought-provoking sci-fi film in the manner of the original Blade Runner, it would be Villeneuve.

I watch about 1 "new" movie about every 5 years. It was your post that prompted me to watch "Sicario" last month. I concur, that this director was a good choice, for this film.

Listening to people whine about movies who see the drivel that comes out every week makes me glad I'm not a "movie-goer".
They seem somewhat "jaded".

The original Bladerunner is one of my 10 favorite movies.
 
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OmCheeto said:
I watch about 1 "new" movie about every 5 years.
OmCheeto said:
The original Bladerunner is one of my 10 favorite movies.
Have you seen more than 10? :wink:
 
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The trailers are proliferating.
I just saw a different trailer in a theater a couple of days ago.
 
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Bandersnatch said:
Have you seen more than 10? :wink:
Thousands. I just wait for them to come out on internet. Very few movies will make me skip the pause button.
The last two I saw on the big screen were "The Martian" and the latest Star Trek movie.
I'm going to have to research who is directing movies from now on, as that latest Trek movie looked like something out of "Fast and Furious", only with space ships. :thumbdown:

Given that I liked Sicario, and Ridley Scott can, IMHO, do no wrong, I will be seeing this one on the big screen.
:film::partytime:
 
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I just came upon this short clip.

It is supposed to give background for the new Blade Runner movie.
The new Tyrell (Niander Wallace) is explaining about his new replicants.
 
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BillTre said:
I just came upon this short clip.

It is supposed to give background for the new Blade Runner movie.
The new Tyrell (Niander Wallace) is explaining about his new replicants.
Looks like they remade the original replicant concept into Asimov's robots.
 
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Here and here are the other two of the three background clips produced in conjunction with the new film.

There are references between them.
I would watch them in the following order:
1
2
3

Here is a nice interview with Harrison Ford on his role and the new film.
He is pretty engaged in the interview.

I've checked out some general reviews and IMDB.
Generally rated at least good, some much better
Cinematography seems to be great (as it was in the original), common suggestion: see in IMAX
 
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I will watch the new Blade Runner tomorrow but I will first watch the old Blade Runner later in video to be familiar with the story. Looking at the synopsis.. the first events were supposed to occur in 2019. It's 2 years from now.. why is real world progress so slow and why did the writer in 1982 thought we could have replicants by year 2019? What was his source? or maybe we already have replicants hiding among us (remember the Grey hybrids stories circulating around)?

"In the futuristic year of 2019, Los Angeles has become a dark and depressing metropolis, filled with urban decay. Rick Deckard, an ex-cop, is a "Blade Runner". Blade runners are people assigned to assassinate "replicants". The replicants are androids that look like real human beings. When four replicants commit a bloody mutiny on the Off World colony, Deckard is called out of retirement to track down the androids. As he tracks the replicants, eliminating them one by one, he soon comes across another replicant, Rachel, who evokes human emotion, despite the fact that she's a replicant herself. As Deckard closes in on the leader of the replicant group, his true hatred toward artificial intelligence makes him question his own identity in this future world, including what's human and what's not human."
 
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Blue Scallop said:
... why did the writer in 1982 thought we could have replicants by year 2019?
What makes you think he did? Do you believe he thought he was really writing future history instead of just a story out of his imagination?

What was his source?
His imagination
or maybe we already have replicants hiding among us (remember the Grey hybrids stories circulating around)?
That's just silly
 
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phinds said:
What makes you think he did? Do you believe he thought he was really writing future history instead of just a story out of his imagination?

His imagination That's just silly

I got the video now and Inhuman episode 3. I will first watch Inhuman then the old Blade Runner.

What's interesting about Blade Runner is the theme about androids and human emotion. If human emotion is more than the sum of the parts.. and androids can never have it. Then it's not silly that AI aliens factions (Borg like) can travel light years to Earth just to harvest emotion. In fact, this is the main theme of all story about the Hybrids.. it's all about emotions. So if we have blade runners whose task is to assassinate the Replicants (or Hybrids).. know they all have emotion.. even if the genetic ingredients are cybernetic insectoid materials. Anyways, movies are just pale reflections of what is possible. I just hope in the future when they made Blade Runner part 3 and they can make use of the idea I just mentioned because it would be more cool. Meanwhile let's enjoy the movies.
 
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Saw the movie today. I won't say much about it other than that it is a worthy successor to the original film. The one thing I liked is how there are things in this film that clearly shows that it is a direct extension of the first film and they did not try to reflect the effects of events that have taken place in the real world between the making of the two films. For example, there were advertisement displays for Pan Am and Atari in this film, both companies that had product placements in the first film.
 
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I saw it also. In IMAX, Thursday night. Not many people there.
I liked it. Very cinematic (visually good). Interesting story. The short videos I linked to above will help understanding of what is going on in the movie.
It is not a fast moving film through, but you can get sucked into it if you are patient.

Differences are (not spoilers):
  • the existence of replicants is widely acknowledged if the film,
  • the issue of replicant emotions is more obviously dealt with.
 
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BillTre said:
I saw it also. In IMAX, Thursday night. Not many people there.
I liked it. Very cinematic (visually good). Interesting story. The short videos I linked to above will help understanding of what is going on in the movie.
It is not a fast moving film through, but you can get sucked into it if you are patient.

Differences are (not spoilers):
  • the existence of replicants is widely acknowledged if the film,
  • the issue of replicant emotions is more obviously dealt with.

It's also being shown in IMAX in my place. Noticed it's indicated 2 hours and 54 hours. Are there a lot of 3D scenes in the movie enough to warrant Imax tickets? Need to reserve some seats if it has many 3D. Thanks.
 
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My IMAX wasn't 3D.
It wasn't maximal IMAX.
 
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Blue Scallop said:
I will first watch the old Blade Runner later in video to be familiar with the story
FYI, there is a bazillion of cuts out there. Well, ok, maybe three main cuts. There's the theatrical cut with the intentionally hammy voiceover (avoid!), the one without it (preferred version in my opinion), and the one with the unicorn (one extra scene alters the whole film - arguably more in line with the short story it was based on, but less coherent as a purely cinematic experience).
 
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Bandersnatch said:
FYI, there is a bazillion of cuts out there. Well, ok, maybe three main cuts. There's the theatrical cut with the intentionally hammy voiceover (avoid!), the one without it (preferred version in my opinion), and the one with the unicorn (one extra scene alters the whole film - arguably more in line with the short story it was based on, but less coherent as a purely cinematic experience).
Blade Runner (30th Anniversary Collector's Edition) [Blu-ray] by Warner Home Video
1982
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DVD30th Anniversary Collector's Edition - Blu-ray
$235.78(1 used & new offers)
 
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I watched Blade Runner 2049 but the sound system in the cinema is not good that I couldn't completely understand the English spoken. Maybe I should have watched it in Imax. But the overall tone of the movie is quite depressing (at least for me). We will fail miserably if we will have similar future where gross materiality rules. Where humans are treated as mere things. When it's available in Blu-ray. I'll watch it again with subtitles. I wonder if those native English speakers amongst you can totally understand every word utter in the movie (?)
 
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What was the name of the lady with one eye? Anybody remember other roles she has done?
 
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Noisy Rhysling said:
What was the name of the lady with one eye? Anybody remember other roles she has done?
Daryl Hanna. She was in Kill Bill and other films. Look her up. Her mermaid in Splash was a lot of fun
 
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There are also Blade Runner Animation series like:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt7428594/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt7326248/?ref_=tt_rec_tt
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt7387408/?ref_=tt_rec_tt

I got the first and will watch tonight. But I feel the entire Blade Runner series is based on some assumptions. They will be great if it can be proven our brains and sentience are just mere circuitry. Is it? Can I add a math module in my brain to have the math ability of Neumaier or add emotion Module to feel like Trump? Of course it would be great if it's possible...
 
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phinds said:
Daryl Hanna. She was in Kill Bill and other films. Look her up. Her mermaid in Splash was a lot of fun
Not the one in first movie, the replicant leader in the new one.
 
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Noisy Rhysling said:
Not the one in first movie, the replicant leader in the new one.

Spoiler filled source; "...one-eyed robo-rebel Freysa..."

Cast [wiki]; Hiam Abbass as Freysa

ps. I saw the movie yesterday. I may be getting too old, cranky, and sore to sit through 3 hour movies in a theater. And I'm pretty sure I could tell the entire story in less than 3 minutes.
 
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I watched the movie Saturday night.

I can't say my review is favourable.

First things first though, the visuals were phenomenal. I mean, the CGI wasn't superhero film quality (I saw the trailer to Justice League that was put on before the film, it looks terrible), it was really next tier stuff. A lot of the time I couldn't tell if the props were CG or real. Very immersing there.

However, the film was unnecessarily long. It did not need to be nearly 3 hours long. Leto's character was pointless insanity who added nothing to the film. Just tell us "he's crazy" and you would have only lost the time spent watching him ramble aimlessly. Don't get me wrong, Leto did very well with the material he was given, but are you telling me we can get skinjobs but this rich guy can't get his eyes fixed? No not a spoiler, he's clearly blind from the moment you first see him.

The main female antagonist is pretty good at being mean, but the protagonists "girlfriend" makes things awkward in a way that Her avoided. I don't know if it was making up for that terrible rapey scene in the first Blade Runner, Director's Cut (if you haven't seen it you're a bit late) but it just shouldn't have happened in my opinion.

The last two "scenes" should have happened about an hour before they did.

I'm not disappointed because it was an all round bad film, it wasn't, I'm disappointed because the plot quality (aside from one part in particular which was really good) did not match the visuals.
 
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It was lengthy, but I liked it. Even my wife liked it and she's a tougher critic than I am on sci fi movies. Spectacular cinematography, good music. I even liked Jared Leto's performance and I am not normally a fan of his.
 
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OmCheeto said:
Spoiler filled source; "...one-eyed robo-rebel Freysa..."

Cast [wiki]; Hiam Abbass as Freysa

ps. I saw the movie yesterday. I may be getting too old, cranky, and sore to sit through 3 hour movies in a theater. And I'm pretty sure I could tell the entire story in less than 3 minutes.
Dang, I was sure I'd seen her in something else.
 
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jez_h said:
but are you telling me we can get skinjobs but this rich guy can't get his eyes fixed?
Yes in this plot. Fixing eyes is Minority Report sci fi. Recall the plot of the original Blade Runner: the goal of the rogue replicants was to have their short lives lengthened. The assumed genetic technology of the day is powerful so that extra human abilities are easy to create, but impossible to change once built. The eye, the optic nerve, the visual centers or the brain are not add-ons. Roy doesn't take no very well.
 
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I'm afraid I didn't follow that very well. Why can't he get his eyes fixed? I've had five operations on my right eye. One more coming when it heals up from the last procedure. Not a replicant yet.
 
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Noisy Rhysling said:
I'm afraid I didn't follow that very well. Why can't he get his eyes fixed? I've had five operations on my right eye. One more coming when it heals up from the last procedure. Not a replicant yet.

This is my thought. We can already 3d print vital organs and fire lasers into our eyes to fix them, but they cannot replace eyes despite making androids that bleed? Sorry, don't buy that.
 
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jez_h said:
This is my thought. We can already 3d print vital organs and fire lasers into our eyes to fix them, but they cannot replace eyes despite making androids that bleed? Sorry, don't buy that.
I hope Ridley's got a good whooper made up for that one. I love the Big Lie.
 
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Nobody fixes optic nerves yet.
 
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mheslep said:
Nobody fixes optic nerves yet.

Good catch on "yet".

However, cataracts are in the front of the eye.
 
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mheslep said:
Nobody fixes optic nerves yet.

We already have initial researches about optic nerves regeneration. See:

https://nei.nih.gov/audacious/optic_nerve

Maybe in 2049.. there won't still be much progress on this.. Or did global catastrophe stopped it? For those who haven't watched the movie yet.. Don't read the following spoiler (is it a spoiler)?

What kind of global catastrophe occurred in the movie? Is it all out nuclear war? Why are most of the sceneries all orange? My cinema sound system was so bad I couldn't hear them speak well so couldn't understand the conversations.
 
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The people who complain about stuff like "They can do X but they can't do Y?!" seem to lack imagination as to why they might NOT be able to do something.

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