Fourier Transform of a Gaussian

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The discussion revolves around the conditions under which a signal g(t) can be its own Fourier Transform, specifically exploring whether g(t) must be a Gaussian function. Participants examine the implications of differential equations and the use of the Fourier Transform definition to derive necessary conditions.

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  • One participant proposes that if g(t) is its own Fourier Transform, then it must satisfy a specific differential equation, but questions the validity of the assumption leading to that equation.
  • Another participant suggests using the Leibniz integral rule to differentiate under the integral sign to derive a differential equation related to G(f) and g(f).
  • Some participants discuss the existence of multiple signals that can be their own Fourier Transform, including examples like the impulse train and even-symmetry signals.
  • A later reply emphasizes that while a Gaussian function is a solution, it is not the only function that can satisfy the condition of being its own Fourier Transform, raising the need for additional assumptions to derive a specific differential equation.
  • One participant notes that continuity and finite energy conditions could eliminate some potential candidates for functions that are their own Fourier Transform.
  • Another participant mentions the hyperbolic secant function as an example of a function that transforms into itself, contributing to the discussion on the variety of functions that can meet the criteria.

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Participants express differing views on whether a Gaussian is the only function that can be its own Fourier Transform, with some arguing for the existence of other functions and others focusing on the conditions necessary to derive a specific differential equation. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the minimal set of assumptions required.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations in the assumptions made, particularly concerning continuity and energy conditions, which may affect the applicability of certain functions as solutions. The discussion also reflects on the need for clarity in the derivation of differential equations from the Fourier Transform definitions.

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Hi everyone

I am trying to prove that if a signal g(t) is its own Fourier Transform (so that G(f) = g(f), i.e. they have the same functional form), then g(t) must be a Gaussian. I know that the Fourier Transform of a Gaussian is a Gaussian, so that's not the point of the exercise.

Simon Haykin's book on Communication Systems, 2nd edition gives the following 'proof':

<br /> \frac{d}{dt}g(t) \rightarrow j2\pi fG(f)<br />

<br /> -j2\pi tg(t) \rightarrow \frac{d}{df}G(f)<br />

Now, from equations 1 and 2, if

<br /> \frac{d}{dt}g(t) = -2\pi tg(t)<br />

then

<br /> \frac{d}{df}G(f) = -2\pi fG(f)<br />

which means that the signal and its FT are the same function.

The problem here is the assumption of that differential equation, which isn't intuitively obvious at first sight. Of course if I stare hard enough at it, it makes sense, but I am trying to prove it from first principles using the definition of the Fourier Transform:

G(f) = \int_{-\infty}^{\infty}g(t)e^{-j2\pi ft}dt

as G(f) = g(f), this becomes

g(f) = \int_{-\infty}^{\infty}g(t)e^{-j2\pi ft}dt

Now, I tried a couple of things with this..like differentiating wrt t, and using g'(f) = G'(f) and so on, but nothing worked out. I'd be grateful if someone could point me in the right direction with this approach. I am looking to get a differential equation in g(t) which has the solution g(t) = e^{-\pi t^{2}}.

Thanks in advance.
Cheers.
 
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I would attack the problem by using the Liebniz integral rule to diferentiate under the integral sign.
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/LeibnizIntegralRule.html

The steps would go something as follows:
\frac{d}{df}G(f) = \frac{d}{df} \int_{-\infty}^{\infty}g(t)e^{-j2\pi ft}dt = ... liebniz rule ... = -2 \pi f \int_{-\infty}^{\infty}g(t)e^{-j2\pi ft}dt = -2 \pi f G(f)

Once you got the DE, you could separate variables and integrate, and hopefully that will result in a gaussian.
 
start with any even-symmetry signal:

x(-t) = x(t)

consider adding the F.T. of this even-symmetry signal to itself (after replacing f with t).

g(t) = x(t) + X(t)

where

X(f) = \mathcal{F}\{x(t)\}

you will see that there are an infinite number of theoretical signals that are the F.T. of themselves.

example:

g(t) = \mathrm{rect}(t) + \mathrm{sinc}(t)
 
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rbj said:
start with any even-symmetry signal:

x(-t) = x(t)

consider adding the F.T. of this even-symmetry signal to itself (after replacing f with t).

g(t) = x(t) + X(t)

where

X(f) = \mathcal{F}\{x(t)\}

you will see that there are an infinite number of theoretical signals that are the F.T. of themselves.

example:

g(t) = \mathrm{rect}(t) + \mathrm{sinc}(t)

That's pretty neat; I'd never seen that before. The other famous example of a signal that is its own transform is the impulse train:

<br /> f(t) = \sum_{i=-\infty}^{\infty} \delta(t-ci)<br /> [/itex]
 
Oh yes, I totally forgot about the impulse train. But then, I want the exact same functional form...i.e. G(f) = g(f)..so I should be able to get the Fourier Transform of the signal just by replacing f with t.

Thanks for the inputs. Btw maze, when you use Leibniz' rule and differentiate under the integral wrt f, you get

-j2\pi\int_{-\infty}^{\infty}tg(t)e^{-j2\pi t}dt

I suppose you missed the 't' term inside, which is the source of the problem.
 
maverick280857 said:
I am looking to get a differential equation in g(t) which has the solution g(t) = e^{-\pi t^{2}}.

So, since it isn't the case that a function must be Gaussian to be its own transform, you aren't going to be able to get such a differential equation without invoking further assumptions. Haykin seems to just point out that that diff.eq. is sufficient and move on. As far as basing the proof in the transform definitions, I think you can see that application of Leibniz's rule will get you from the definitions up to the transform properties (eqs. 1 and 2 in the original post). The question then is: what is the minimal set of additional assumptions on f(t) such that you get the differential equation in question. Obviously continuity will rule out the impulse train, and finite energy will get rid of some more, but rbj's examples are not so easily dispensed with. Perhaps the assumption of an exponential family distribution will do it?
 
FYI, the hyperbolic secant sech(t) transforms into a hyperbolic secant.
 

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