Fourier Transform question, is it correct to remove the correcting factor?

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The discussion centers on the normalization factor in Fourier transforms, with a math professor stating it is optional, while textbooks typically include it. The normalization factor is crucial because omitting it results in returning a scaled version of the original function, specifically 2πf(x) instead of f(x). Participants emphasize the importance of confirming the conventions used in the Fourier transform definitions, as discrepancies can lead to incorrect interpretations. The conversation highlights the need for clarity in mathematical definitions and the potential confusion arising from different conventions. Ultimately, verifying the professor's approach and understanding the correct application of Fourier transforms is recommended.
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My math professor doesn't include the correcting (normalizing factor) neither in the Fourier transform nor in the inverse Fourier! He says that it's optional.
It is weird because I have seen it used in all the textbooks! Is it a big deal?

He defines the Fourier transform as:-

http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/3822/56167015.jpg


And inverse as:-

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/8430/25649157.jpg
 
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You might want to take another look at the Fourier transforms in those pictures... They don't make sense.

As for your answer: yes, it does matter. The constant in front is a normalization factor. If you have a function f(x) and you Fourier transform it, followed by the inverse transform, then you should expect to get the same function back, f(x). But without the normalization factor you will always get back 2\pi f(x) -- which is why you need the normalization in front. Just try it out with some function like \sin(\pi x)

You can also use the following conventions

F(\omega) = \int f(x) e^{-2\pi i \omega x} dx
and for the inverse
f(x) = \int F(\omega) e^{2\pi i \omega x} dx

No normalization is needed, but the 2\pi still pops up somewhere.
 
xepma said:
You might want to take another look at the Fourier transforms in those pictures... They don't make sense.

Well, that's what I have written in my notes, what's wrong?
Omega is the angular frequency
Inline28.gif

Though he never substitutes it.

xepma said:
As for your answer: yes, it does matter. The constant in front is a normalization factor. If you have a function f(x) and you Fourier transform it, followed by the inverse transform, then you should expect to get the same function back, f(x). But without the normalization factor you will always get back 2\pi f(x) -- which is why you need the normalization in front. Just try it out with some function like \sin(\pi x)

So, should I go have a talk with him?


xepma said:
You can also use the following conventions

F(\omega) = \int f(x) e^{-2\pi i \omega x} dx
and for the inverse
f(x) = \int F(\omega) e^{2\pi i \omega x} dx

No normalization is needed, but the 2\pi still pops up somewhere.
But the questions are multiple choice, so if I use a different form I'd get a different answer :(
 
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thecake said:
Well, that's what I have written in my notes, what's wrong?
Omega is the angular frequency
Inline28.gif

Though he never substitutes it.
I'm afraid they can't be correct -- really. In the first you integrate over t, while the function f is a function of x. That means you can just pull this function out of the integral! The same goes for the inverse: you integrate over t, while the function F is a function of x... it simply doesn't make sense.

So:
\int f(x) e^{i\omega t} dt = f(x) \int e^{i\omega t} dt

Do you see why this is true?




So, should I go have a talk with him?
If you're notes are incorrect, then you're teacher might still be right, depending on his conventions for the transform. It's best to ask him what conventions he uses precisely. I can assure you that what you've written here is either incorrect, or some information is missing.

But the questions are multiple choice, so if I use a different form I'd get a different answer :(

:/
 
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xepma said:
I'm afraid they can't be correct -- really. In the first you integrate over t, while the function f is a function of x. That means you can just pull this function out of the integral! The same goes for the inverse: you integrate over t, while the function F is a function of x... it simply doesn't make sense.

So:
\int f(x) e^{i\omega t} dt = f(x) \int e^{i\omega t} dt

Do you see why this is true?





If you're notes are incorrect, then you're teacher might still be right, depending on his conventions for the transform. It's best to ask him what conventions he uses precisely. I can assure you that what you've written here is either incorrect, or some information is missing.



:/

You're right it is a function of (t) xD! Silly me. I've just checked.
So is he right after all?
 

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