Fox News from a New Zealander's point of view.

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The discussion centers around perceptions of Fox News from the perspective of a New Zealander, exploring themes of bias, entertainment value, and the implications of media consumption. Participants share their views on the channel's political stance and its impact on public opinion, as well as comparisons to other news outlets.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant watches Fox News for entertainment, criticizing its perceived bias and the portrayal of political figures.
  • Another participant expresses concern about generalizing the views presented on Fox News to the entire American population, noting that many Americans share similar criticisms.
  • Some participants acknowledge the entertainment value of the channel while questioning the validity of its "Fair & Balanced" claim.
  • There is a mention of the availability of other news channels like CNN and MSNBC, with one participant noting they do not receive MSNBC.
  • Discussion includes the influence of Rupert Murdoch, with participants commenting on his Australian background and conservative leanings.
  • One participant humorously references the cultural perceptions of New Zealand from an American perspective.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of agreement and disagreement regarding the nature of Fox News. While some enjoy it for entertainment, others are critical of its bias. There is no consensus on the implications of watching the channel or its impact on viewers' perceptions of American politics.

Contextual Notes

Some participants reference the broader media landscape and the potential for misunderstanding cultural contexts, particularly regarding New Zealand's relationship with American media. The discussion touches on the complexities of media influence without resolving the nuances involved.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to those exploring media bias, international perspectives on American news, and the cultural implications of media consumption.

Kiwi-lad
I joined this group to specifically comment on FoxNews.
I watch it here in New Zealand on my cable channel.
I watch it if for entertainment only. You can not watch that channel and seriously think you are getting an unbiased view of politics.
One gets the impressions that their hosts think that Obama is a Lenin reincarnated from the dead whom spent a lot of time in the tanning salon up in the sky.
As i say I watch it for entertainment only. When I need a laugh I watch the far right loonies like Hannity and O'Reilly squealing about something. You just have to laugh at them.
I really believe someone should in your country should take this channel to court. Not because they are basically the media wing of the Republic Party, but because they call themselves "Fair and Balanced". Whom are they trying to kid?
I mean, as an example Karl Rove gets interviewed about Obama all the time. Was he not George Bush's right hand man?
Fair and Blanced my A##.
When I want to watch real news, instead of having a laugh, I watch CNN and BBC.
In fact, I don't need the comedy channel anymore - I just tune into Glenn Beck.
 
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Hi Kiwi - welcome to PF!

I had no idea Fox was available overseas...well no surprise I guess, Murdoch is Australian.

I hope you don't extrapolate what you see on Faux News onto the whole of the American population. Plenty of us feel as you do.
 
Kiwi-lad, welcome to PF.

You do realize that by watching it, in effect you are supporting it, right?
 
lisab said:
Hi Kiwi - welcome to PF!

I had no idea Fox was available overseas...well no surprise I guess, Murdoch is Australian.

I hope you don't extrapolate what you see on Faux News onto the whole of the American population. Plenty of us feel as you do.


Hello there Lisa :-)

Well, that's not surprising. I read a travel book once about an American woman whom traveled to New Zealand and was shocked to find out that we served in the Vietnam War!
Yes, we get Fox News, CNN, CNBC, ESPN ...
I don't say that to sound condascending, but just that New Zealand is just a tiny country at the bottom of the Pacific Ocean, whom not a lot of people know too much about.
:-)

Murdoch is an Australian, and a very Conservative one at that. I am glad he is Australian and not a Kiwi !

And I realize the Fox debate has probably been done adnauseum on this Forum, so sorry to all if I am going over old ground - but I just had too get my 2 cents in.

Cheers :-)
 
Ivan Seeking said:
Kiwi-lad, welcome to PF.

You do realize that by watching it, in effect you are supporting it, right?

Absolutely. I maintain they have the right to spout off as much conservative waffle as they want. I enjoy the channel, I don't think the hosts are "Bad" people...as I said, I watch it for pure entertainment.
But I do think their "Fair & Balanced" mantra is just plain silly.
 
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Kiwi-lad said:
Hello there Lisa :-)

Well, that's not surprising. I read a travel book once about an American woman whom traveled to New Zealand and was shocked to find out that we served in the Vietnam War!
Yes, we get Fox News, CNN, CNBC, ESPN ...
I don't say that to sound condascending, but just that New Zealand is just a tiny country at the bottom of the Pacific Ocean, whom not a lot of people know too much about.
:-)

Murdoch is an Australian, and a very Conservative one at that. I am glad he is Australian and not a Kiwi !

And I realize the Fox debate has probably been done adnauseum on this Forum, so sorry to all if I am going over old ground - but I just had too get my 2 cents in.

Cheers :-)

Oh, I should have elaborated...yes I know New Zealand is a different country than Australia. But I figured if Murdoch has such an extensive reach into the US market, he must have quite a reach into New Zealand as well.

I would love to visit your country some day...looks so beautiful!
 
Kiwi-lad said:
Absolutely. I maintain they have the right to spout off as much conservative waffle as they want. I enjoy the channel, I don't think the hosts are "Bad" people...as I said, I watch it for pure entertainment.
But I do think their "Fair & Balanced" mantra is just plain silly.

The problem of course is all those people who don't see it as one big pathetic joke.
 
Kiwi-lad...welcome!

Just out of curiosity...do you also receive MSNBC...the exact (left) opposite of FOX?
 
WhoWee said:
Kiwi-lad...welcome!

Just out of curiosity...do you also receive MSNBC...the exact (left) opposite of FOX?

Uh, No.
 
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g'day to you mate. :biggrin:
(ya you wrong country. :wink: I know )

I hope you got to watch the Tea bag tax protests.
FOX coverage and the CNN coverage of the FOX coverage was good for a laugh a minute.
 
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Kiwi-lad said:
I read a travel book once about an American woman whom traveled to New Zealand
That sounds unlikely - an American travelled to New Zealand.
Was she disappointed at not seeing hobbits?

Murdoch is an Australian, and a very Conservative one at that.
He is an American now - to get around US rules on ownership of newspapers.
Only a true patriot would give up their country for the SEC
 

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