Freshman at BMCC: Is Success Possible Despite Remedial Courses?

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The discussion revolves around the challenges and possibilities for a freshman student at BMCC who is taking remedial courses and is uncertain about achieving success in a STEM career, particularly in physics or chemistry. Participants explore concepts of motivation, career paths, and the definition of success.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about achieving success while taking remedial courses and having failed the ACT.
  • Another participant questions the definition of "very successful" and suggests that success is subjective and can vary based on personal passions.
  • Some participants propose that motivation is crucial for pursuing a career in physics or chemistry, while others suggest exploring interests as hobbies before committing to a career path.
  • There are suggestions to take general education courses while figuring out career interests, emphasizing the importance of not rushing into a decision without motivation.
  • A participant shares their personal experience of engaging with physics through reading and community involvement as a way to cultivate interest and direction.
  • Concerns are raised about the feasibility of being a freshman despite failing the ACT, with advice to consider smaller, manageable goals rather than lofty aspirations immediately.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the importance of motivation and the definition of success, with no clear consensus on the best approach to take. Some advocate for taking small steps and exploring interests, while others emphasize the necessity of motivation for success in STEM fields.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the need for motivation and direction, but there are varying opinions on how to achieve this and what steps to take next. The discussion reflects differing perspectives on success and the role of remedial courses in a student's academic journey.

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i am a freshman student at BMCC (cuny). in new york. its a community college. i just wanted to know if it is possible for me to be very successful also i am taking all remedial. yes i have failed the ACT that is needed to take before you start going there.
 
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Of course it is.

What do you define as "very successful"?
 
well i define as it as a maybe a physicist? or a chemist a professional career with a high payment?

im not worried about the payment but I am not motivated much.
 
Well if you're not motivated then why would you want to do physics or chemistry?
 
You can start with remedial courses and later be successful; although you need to be motivated and need a sense of direction.
 
Success is relative. For example, and teacher making $30k a year can be considered just as successful as a physicist making $100k+ a year. What is comes down to is what your passions are.

If you are wanting to get into a career field because of higher pay, I would say you need to take a step back and evaluate how much time you are willing to spend and how much effort you are willing to put into your studies. Physics and Chemistry require a high level of analytical skills and focus when studying.

I suggest you determine what you have a passion for and pursue it, even if you only make a median salary. Your success is only determined by you and how confident you are in the goals you achieve.
 
i like science and how things work. i also like inventing things, but I am still not motivated at that! so i was wondering how can i start getting to be motivated and get to my career.

as i have spoken about payment i meant that successful people makes a lot of money! or well i think of that.

so I am really not sure about getting into a career. how can i start getting into something?
 
demi0989 said:
i like science and how things work. i also like inventing things, but I am still not motivated at that! so i was wondering how can i start getting to be motivated and get to my career.

as i have spoken about payment i meant that successful people makes a lot of money! or well i think of that.

so I am really not sure about getting into a career. how can i start getting into something?

Take it up as a hobby.
 
DaveC426913 said:
Take it up as a hobby.

what you mean by that?
also what if i like something but not familiar with it?
 
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demi0989 said:
what you mean by that?
also what if i like something but not familiar with it?

I mean: you've said you're not motivated. You should not invest in a career until you've experimented with it to be sure you want to go through with it.

So take up physics as a hobby. See if you like it.

demi0989 said:
also what if i like something but not familiar with it?
Uh, I dunno. Familiarize yourself with it? Read? Join an online forum?

What are you asking us?
 
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DaveC426913 said:
What are you asking us?

well i just wanted to know pretty much. how can i start on a career and be good with it? very confused really.
 
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demi0989 said:
well i just wanted to know pretty much. how can i start on a career and be good with it? very confused really.
Well, what I did was join this forum. I've been here five years because I like physics. Also, I've read every book I could get my hands on. I've surrounded myself with the trappings of my vocation of interest. I'm now looking at going back to school to take the maths I'll need.

In my experience, the things you will excel at are the things you'd do for free, the things you fill your "me" time with.
 
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If you are not motivated, I would say take a risk and find a job or a class relevant to the career you are interested in and see whether that motivates you. If you fail to become motivated, find a different path to take. For example: If you are interested in physics, take a course in physics. If you are not motivated after that, find a nother class in a field you have an interest in. There is no reason to waste 4 years of college and thousands of dollars if you have no mitivation or sense of direction.

You say you attend a community college. While you are trying to figure out what you want to do, spend your time completing your general education requirements (i.e. english, history, humanities, math, etc...). Hopefully at the end of two year, you will have an idea what you want to pursue.
 
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how would one become a scholar? what does a scholar do and can anyone name a scholar?
 
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demi0989 said:
how would one become a scholar? what does a scholar do and can anyone name a scholar?

Look in a dictionary and read the definition of "scholar". Is that what you want to be? You are maybe viewing "scholar" as a label. Someone just recently made some advice to you: study your required general education courses. You might or might not decide on a choice of what main field to study. Stop worrying about whether you should fit the label of scholar. Just study and find a path. Even school counselors may give less useful career-direction counseling than you can determine for yourself, until you make a choice and ask for more specific advice from people in that field.
 
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i am a freshman student at BMCC (cuny). in new york. its a community college. i just wanted to know if it is possible for me to be very successful also i am taking all remedial. yes i have failed the ACT that is needed to take before you start going there.
If you failed the ACT and they require it, how are you a freshman at the college?

Maybe you should start out a little smaller than thinking being a scholar or a physicist and go one step at a time. If the money is not too bad, try and stay in school until you get an associates degree in something, then transfer, get a job, or keep going for a bachelors at the same school.
 
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Mk said:
If you failed the ACT and they require it, how are you a freshman at the college?

Maybe you should start out a little smaller than thinking being a scholar or a physicist and go one step at a time. If the money is not too bad, try and stay in school until you get an associates degree in something, then transfer, get a job, or keep going for a bachelors at the same school.

thanks ill take small steps and also I am takeing those remedial of the failure to my ACT.
 

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