Friction and Velocity: Solving for Constant Velocity on an Inclined Surface

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The problem involves a car sliding down an inclined surface and seeks to determine the inclination angle at which the car maintains a constant velocity. The context includes concepts of friction, forces acting on the car, and the relationship between acceleration and velocity.

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  • Participants discuss the conditions for constant velocity, with some attempting to set up equations involving friction and gravitational components. Questions arise regarding the correct identification of forces acting parallel and perpendicular to the incline.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the components of forces acting on the car. There is a focus on clarifying the relationship between friction, normal force, and the gravitational components, but no consensus has been reached on the correct formulation of the problem.

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Participants are navigating through the definitions of forces and their components, with some expressing uncertainty about their calculations and assumptions regarding the setup of the problem.

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A car of mass 1000kg is sliding down a hill. The coefficients of friction between the cars tires and the ground are u=0.89 and u[k]=.61. For what inclination angle will the car slide down the hill with a constant velocity.
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So what I figured was that the car will have constant velocity when there is 0 acceleration. So F-f[friction]=0 ( which I don't know is correct or not). Then I set ma=u[k]mgcosQ, and solved for cosQ to get arccos(a/u[k]g). I just don't think any of what I'm doing is correct. Where have I gone wrong?
 
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So what I figured was that the car will have constant velocity when there is 0 acceleration. So F-f[friction]=0 ( which I don't know is correct or not). Then I set ma=u[k]mgcosQ, and solved for cosQ to get arccos(a/u[k]g). I just don't think any of what I'm doing is correct. Where have I gone wrong?

well firstly, you need to get the component of the weight parallel to the slope, that will be your 'F'. When you get that you can solve it the way you were solving before.
 
Well I thought that's what I did, no? Thats what mgcosQ is, the parallel component of the weight..
 
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Well I thought that's what I did, no? Thats what mgcosQ is, the parallel component of the weight..

Nope, remember that friction =μN = μmgcosθ, which you correctly identified and this is normal to the slope, so there is only one other component left, which is parallel.
 
Ok so I have two things here: mgcosQ and mgsinQ. So mgcosQ is perpendicular weight, and mgsinQ is the parallel weight? So then what? ma=uk(mgsinQ-mgcosQ)?
 
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Ok so I have two things here: mgcosQ and mgsinQ. So mgcosQ is perpendicular weight, and mgsinQ is the parallel weight? So then what? ma=uk(mgsinQ-mgcosQ)?

No you will have ma=mgsinθ - μmgcosθ and you said that for constant velocity, a = 0, so θ is?
 

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