Friction of rubber box on concrete floor

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a 10 kg rubber box resting on a concrete floor, with a horizontal force of 200 N applied. Participants are exploring the concept of friction in relation to Newton's laws.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to determine the magnitude of the friction force acting on the box, with various values suggested. There is uncertainty about whether the friction force could be zero due to static friction and the box being at rest. Questions are raised regarding the coefficient of friction and its relevance to the problem.

Discussion Status

There is ongoing exploration of the problem, with participants questioning the conditions under which the friction force is being evaluated. Some have provided the coefficient of friction, while others are clarifying whether the question pertains to static or kinetic friction.

Contextual Notes

Participants are discussing the implications of the coefficient of friction and whether it was provided in the problem statement. There is also a consideration of the state of motion of the box, which affects the friction force being analyzed.

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Homework Statement


A 10 kg rubber box is resting on a concrete floor. A force of 200 N is then applied to this box in a horizontal direction. What is the magnitude of the friction force on the box?

Homework Equations


This is a question about applying Newton's laws so Fsmax = μs η and η = mg.

The Attempt at a Solution


I have had answers -200 N, 98.1N, and 200N in which they are all incorrect. I have an idea it could be 0 N since the net force would have to be 0 since it is at rest and there is a static friction present but I am not sure.
 
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anon3005 said:

Homework Statement


A 10 kg rubber box is resting on a concrete floor. A force of 200 N is then applied to this box in a horizontal direction. What is the magnitude of the friction force on the box?

Homework Equations


This is a question about applying Newton's laws so Fsmax = μs η and η = mg.

The Attempt at a Solution


I have had answers -200 N, 98.1N, and 200N in which they are all incorrect. I have an idea it could be 0 N since the net force would have to be 0 since it is at rest and there is a static friction present but I am not sure.
What is the co-efficient of friction between rubber and concrete? Is that given? If not, I think you should look it up.
 
cnh1995 said:
What is the co-efficient of friction between rubber and concrete? Is that given? If not, I think you should look it up.

It's 1.00
 
anon3005 said:
It's 1.00
So what's the equation?
 
Is the question asking about the friction force before it starts sliding, or after (assuming it slides)?
 
James R said:
Is the question asking about the friction force before it starts sliding, or after (assuming it slides)?
Given the coefficient of friction, it is safe to assume it slides.
 

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