Fundamental Theorem of Arithmetic

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The discussion revolves around the Fundamental Theorem of Arithmetic and its application to proving that every positive integer can be expressed uniquely as a product of a power of 2 and an odd number.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the form of positive integers as products of primes, questioning how to represent even and odd integers. Some express uncertainty about the uniqueness of the representation and the implications of the theorem.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively discussing various interpretations of the problem statement, with some suggesting specific examples to clarify their understanding. There is a recognition of the need for a clear definition of whether the representation should be a product or a sum, and several participants are attempting to identify patterns in the representations of even and odd integers.

Contextual Notes

There is a lack of explicit definitions regarding the terms used in the problem statement, particularly whether "uniquely" refers to a product or a sum. Participants are also grappling with the implications of the theorem in relation to specific integers.

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Homework Statement


Using the Fundamental Theorem of Arithmetic, prove that every positive integer can be written uniquely as a power of 2 and an odd number.


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Since the FTOA states that any integer can be written as a product of primes, then it seems that any positive integer can be of the form 2^i*p^j, where p is a prime <> 2. But to get 1, I would have to have 2^0*p*0 and I'm not sure if that would work.
 
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tarheelborn said:
it seems that any positive integer can be of the form 2^i*p^j.
Even 15?

P.S. have you tried specific examples, rather than trying to prove it for everything right off the bat?
 
Initially, I had worked this problem so that I was dealing with two cases, evens and odds. I came up with even integers = 2^0+(n-1) and odd integers = 2^1+(n-2). Hence 15 would equal 2+(15-2)=2+13. But I couldn't work that into a proof using FTOA. I am not sure whether I should try to multipy or add/subtract the odd number.
 
For some reason, I was sure the problem you wrote said "sum". Of course, the problem cannot be right in that case (you could use 4 as your power of 2, instead of 2, and get two different answers)

If the problem said "product", then the representation is unique -- and it's a useful representation I've seen in actual application -- so that's probably what it meant.
 
Actually, it didn't say either product or sum. It simply said that every positive integer can be written "uniquely as a power of 2 and an odd number." I believe it will have to be a product, so I will try developing a pattern as you suggested with actual numbers. I may be back, however! Thank you.
 
The odd numbers seem to be working out nicely to 2^0 * n, but I am having trouble coming up with a pattern for the even numbers. Any ideas that could nudge along my thinking? Thank you.
 
If you can't figure out all even numbers, how about some of them?
 
OK. I have the following (sometimes I feel really dense and this is certainly one of those times!) list:

2=2^1*1
4=2^2*1
6=2^1*3
8=2^3*1
10=2^1*5
12=2^2*3
14=2^1*7

So it seems like every other one (starting with 2) is 2^1 * (n/2). I don't see a pattern in the others.
 
Keep in mind that 2^0 is a power of 2.
 
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So, using the Fundamental Theorem of Arithmetic would I be able to say that any integer can be written as a product of primes, implying that any integer can be written as 2^i * 3^j * 5^k... and then take out the power of 2 so that said integer can be written as 2*(3^j * 5^k...), where j, k >=0. With 2 out of the picture, the other elements of the product would be odd and odd numbers multiplied by odd numbers give odd numbers, so it is proved.

Is that where I need to go? Thanks so much for your help!
 

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