Gamma matrices and how they operate

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The discussion revolves around the properties and representations of gamma matrices in the context of quantum mechanics, specifically their role in the Dirac equation. The original poster questions the validity of their calculations involving the gamma matrices and their relationships.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between the gamma matrices and their representations, questioning whether the specific forms are dependent on the representation used. There is also an examination of matrix multiplication results and their implications.

Discussion Status

Some participants express confusion regarding the results of their calculations, particularly concerning the multiplication of matrices leading to a null matrix. Others provide feedback on these calculations, indicating that there may be errors in the original poster's approach, while still exploring the underlying relationships.

Contextual Notes

There is an emphasis on the conventions used in defining the gamma matrices and the potential variations in their forms across different representations, such as Dirac, Majorana, or Weyl/chiral representations. Participants also reflect on the implications of obtaining a zero matrix in their calculations.

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Homework Statement



Just a matter of convention (question)

Homework Equations



\gamma^0 = \begin{pmatrix} 1 & 0 & 0 & 0 \\0 & 1 & 0 & 0 \\0 & 0 & -1 & 0 \\0 & 0 & 0 & -1 \end{pmatrix}

The Attempt at a Solution



If then,

\gamma^0 = \begin{pmatrix} 1 & 0 & 0 & 0 \\0 & 1 & 0 & 0 \\0 & 0 & -1 & 0 \\0 & 0 & 0 & -1 \end{pmatrix}

and \gamma^0 is just \beta and \beta \alpha^k = \gamma^k is it true then that

\gamma^k = \begin{pmatrix} 1 & 0 & 0 & 0 \\0 & 1 & 0 & 0 \\0 & 0 & -1 & 0 \\0 & 0 & 0 & -1 \end{pmatrix}\alpha^k
 
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Can no one confirm I have done this right?
 
Isn't the particular form of a Dirac matrix representation dependent ? So then only the general relations will hold, i.e.

βrepαkrepkrep

where i/o <rep> one has the Dirac, Majorana or Weyl/chiral representations.
 
dextercioby said:
Isn't the particular form of a Dirac matrix representation dependent ? So then only the general relations will hold, i.e.

βrepαkrepkrep

where i/o <rep> one has the Dirac, Majorana or Weyl/chiral representations.

I think so. I think you have to work with D(\psi(x,t)) on the three matrices \gamma^1,\gamma^2,\gamma^3 to get back the matrix i\gamma^0 \begin{pmatrix} 1 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 \\0 &amp; 1 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 \\0 &amp; 0 &amp; -1 &amp; 0\\ 0 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 &amp; -1 \end{pmatrix}

which when squared gives you the chirality.
 
Now I am really confused: consider the matrix form of a^k and calculate it all out we have

\begin{pmatrix} 1 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 \\0 &amp; 1 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 \\0 &amp; 0 &amp; -1 &amp; 0 \\0 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 &amp; -1 \end{pmatrix}\begin{pmatrix} 0 &amp; 0 &amp; 1 &amp; 0 \\0 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 &amp; -1 \\0 &amp; 1 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 \\1 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 \end{pmatrix} = \begin{pmatrix} 0 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 \\0 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 \\0 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 \\0 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 \end{pmatrix}

A nullified matrix?

Have I got my a^k matrix right... ?
 
a^k is just a submatrix, right? of

0_2 sigma^k

\sigma^k 0_2

k=1,2,3

in my case, 1 and 3
 
I just don't understand why the relationship

\beta \alpha^k = \gamma^k

would be important if it spat out a zero matrix, which makes me wonder strongly whether I even have the right conditions down.
 
help1please said:
\begin{pmatrix} 1 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 \\0 &amp; 1 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 \\0 &amp; 0 &amp; -1 &amp; 0 \\0 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 &amp; -1 \end{pmatrix}\begin{pmatrix} 0 &amp; 0 &amp; 1 &amp; 0 \\0 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 &amp; -1 \\0 &amp; 1 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 \\1 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 \end{pmatrix} = \begin{pmatrix} 0 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 \\0 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 \\0 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 \\0 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 \end{pmatrix}

A nullified matrix?

You will not get the null matrix. For example, check the element in the first row, third column of the resultant matrix.
 
I'm sorry, I did it all wrong didn't I? I now get

\begin{pmatrix} 1 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 \\0 &amp; 1 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 \\0 &amp; 0 &amp; -1 &amp; 0 \\0 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 &amp; -1 \end{pmatrix}\begin{pmatrix} 0 &amp; 0 &amp; 1 &amp; 0 \\0 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 &amp; -1 \\0 &amp; 1 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 \\1 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 \end{pmatrix} = \begin{pmatrix} 0 &amp; 0 &amp; 1 &amp; 0 \\0 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 &amp; -1 \\0 &amp; -1 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 \\-1 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 \end{pmatrix}


I am an idiot some times lol
 

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