Gamma Rays: Faster than Light?

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The discussion revolves around the speed of gamma rays and whether their higher energy allows them to travel faster than the speed of light (c). Participants explore theoretical implications and models related to the speed of light and energy of photons.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that since gamma rays are more energetic, they should travel faster than c.
  • Another participant clarifies that the energy of a wave is determined by its frequency, not its speed, asserting that gamma rays, like all light, travel at c.
  • A participant mentions that while gamma rays are known to travel at c, there are theories, such as loop quantum gravity, that propose they could travel slightly faster.
  • Another participant introduces Doubly Special Relativity (DSR), which posits that the energy of photons could affect their speed, suggesting that higher energy photons, like blue light, might travel faster than lower energy photons, such as red light. They note that this theory is controversial and speculative.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether gamma rays can exceed the speed of light, with some asserting they travel at c while others propose theoretical models that suggest otherwise. The discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes speculative theories that challenge established physics, such as DSR and loop quantum gravity, which may not have consensus support. The implications of these theories on the speed of light and energy relationships are not fully explored or agreed upon.

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Since gamma rays are much more energetic, then shouldn't they travel faster. Gamma rays are light, but since they are faster shouldn't they travel faster than c?
 
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The energy if a wave is given by the frequency of the wave, not by it's speed. Gamma waves are more energetic than visable light waves, so they have a higher frequency, and thus a shorter wavelength.

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As far as we know, gamma rays also travel at exactly c. There are theories (google "loop quantum gravity") that predict gamma rays to be slightly faster.
 
There is also DSR or Doubly Special Relativity:

http://www.physicspost.com/articles.php?articleId=129

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doubly-special_relativity

This works by the fact DSR allows the energy of the photons themselves to in fact alter the speed of the photon. Blue light, for example, would travel at a slightly faster speed than red light. This difference is of course minute. Maguijo reasons that in the early universe, where photons had much higher energies than today, their velocities may in fact be significantly higher. Though this is in direct contradiction of Einstein, it does solve a lot of problems in cosmology.

However DSR remains controversial and speculative.
 
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