Gas pressure calculation of reactive species in a fixed bed reactor

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around modeling gas pressure in a tubular fixed bed plug reactor undergoing an exothermic gas-solid reaction. Participants explore the complexities involved in accounting for factors such as viscous drag, gas-solid reactions, and temperature changes, while seeking appropriate models for their calculations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested, Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes the influence of viscous drag, gas reacting with the solid, and temperature increase on pressure in the reactor.
  • Another participant highlights the complexity of reaction rates, heat transfer, and local porosity, suggesting that simulations may be more suitable than analytical models.
  • A participant mentions they are using finite-element modeling with COMSOL multiphysics and seeks algebraic and differential equations for numerical solutions, indicating they have a reaction rate model and a basic heat-transfer model already in place.
  • There is a reference to the Ergun model for pressure drop through a packed bed, but concerns are raised about its limitations regarding gas removal and temperature effects.
  • One participant suggests consulting texts on reaction engineering, such as Levenspiel or Scott Fogler's book, for further insights.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the suitability of analytical versus simulation approaches, and there is no consensus on a specific model that adequately addresses the complexities of the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the need for more variables in modeling, including reaction rates and local conditions, which complicates the analytical approach. There is also mention of specific assumptions related to thermal equilibrium and the limitations of existing models.

Hologram0110
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Hi everyone,
I'm a university student doing some RA work which involves modelling the gas pressure in a tubular fixed bed plug reactor with an exothermic gas-solid reaction. I know the pressure will be influenced by three things: viscous drag, gas reacting with the solid and temperature increasing.

I'm not a chemical engineer, so I'm not really familiar with these types of calculations. I've done my best to Google, but I can only seem to find models for non-reacting species and no temperature change. I've found two main models: Darcy's Law (low Reynolds number, incompressible fluids) and Ergun equation.

My rough calculations put the Reynolds number approximately 1~2. Does anyone know where I can find a model which includes production/removal of gas as well as temperature changes?
 
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There are many more variables here than you may realize. The reaction rate can be very complex, the rate of heat transfer would need to be estimated, the local porosity in the bed would need to be modeled to assess the local gas conditions, etc.

This sounds like it's better suited for simulations than analytical modeling.

But, I've found that Poirier and Geiger's Transport Phenomena in Materials Processing is a very accessible introduction to these kinds of problems.
 
Sorry if I didn't make it clear, I'm doing finite-element modeling using COMSOL multiphysics. So I'm not really looking for an analytical solution so much as a set of algebraic and differential equations to solve numerically.

I've already got a reaction rate model which is a function of temperature, steam partial pressure, particle size and reactant depletion. I've also already got a basic transient heat-transfer model which includes conduction and convection assuming the gas and solids are in thermal equilibrium.

I've also already implemented the Ergun model for pressure drop through a packed bed. However it doesn't consider the effects of removing gas from the flow and increasing the temperature which is why I'm looking for a better model. I have a physics background and this just seems like something that should have a standard modeling approach but I haven't found it yet.
 
Hologram0110 said:
Hi everyone,
I'm a university student doing some RA work which involves modelling the gas pressure in a tubular fixed bed plug reactor with an exothermic gas-solid reaction. I know the pressure will be influenced by three things: viscous drag, gas reacting with the solid and temperature increasing.

I'm not a chemical engineer, so I'm not really familiar with these types of calculations. I've done my best to Google, but I can only seem to find models for non-reacting species and no temperature change. I've found two main models: Darcy's Law (low Reynolds number, incompressible fluids) and Ergun equation.

My rough calculations put the Reynolds number approximately 1~2. Does anyone know where I can find a model which includes production/removal of gas as well as temperature changes?
See a text on reaction engineering such as Levenspiel or Scott Fogler's book.
 

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