General solution to 2nd order ODE

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The discussion revolves around finding the general solution to a second-order ordinary differential equation (ODE) of the form y'' - 7y' + 6y = 2e^(3t) + te^(t). Participants explore the homogeneous solution and particular solutions for the non-homogeneous terms.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to find the general solution by first determining the homogeneous solution and then addressing the particular solutions for the non-homogeneous components. There is a question about the appropriate form for the particular solution related to te^(t), with suggestions to modify the assumed form due to overlaps with the homogeneous solution.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing guidance on the form of the particular solution. There are differing results regarding the coefficients obtained from substituting into the differential equation, indicating ongoing exploration and verification of the calculations.

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There is a mention of the need to adjust the assumed form of the particular solution due to the presence of e^(t) in the homogeneous solution, which raises questions about the validity of initial assumptions and the resulting coefficients.

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Find the general solution of the ordinary differential equation.

y'' - 7y'+ 6y = 2e^(3t) + te^(t)

First i found GS(H) by lettings y = e^(cx)

and got GS(H) = Ae^(6t) + Be^(t)

i then found PS(IH) y'' - 7y'+ 6y = 2e^(3t) by letting y = ae^(3t)

and got PS(IH) = -(1/3)e^(3t)

Now my problem
I am trying to find the other PS(IH) y'' - 7y'+ 6y = te^(t)
do i do this by letting y = (a+bt)e^(t) ??
 
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forty said:
Find the general solution of the ordinary differential equation.

y'' - 7y'+ 6y = 2e^(3t) + te^(t)

First i found GS(H) by lettings y = e^(cx)

and got GS(H) = Ae^(6t) + Be^(t)

i then found PS(IH) y'' - 7y'+ 6y = 2e^(3t) by letting y = ae^(3t)

and got PS(IH) = -(1/3)e^(3t)

Now my problem
I am trying to find the other PS(IH) y'' - 7y'+ 6y = te^(t)
do i do this by letting y = (a+bt)e^(t) ??
Normally, you would try that but since et is already a solution to the homogeneous equation, this will not work. (Surely you have already tried and discovered that?) The standard step for this situation is to multiply by t: try y= (at+ bt2et.
 
you say try y= (at+ bt2et.

is that bracket suppose to be there? I am not sure if that's (at+bt^2)e^t or at+b(t^2).e^t
 
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I used y = (at+bt^2)e^t
y' = (at+bt^2)e^t + (a+2bt)e^t
y'' = (at+bt^2)e^t + (a+2bt)e^t + (a+2bt)e^t + 2be^t

i substituted those in and equated coefficients and got the result a = o and b = 1/10

have i done this right ?
 
I didn't get that. For me, neither a nor b is zero. Why don't you check this by substituting it into the modified DE to see if it satifies the equation?
 
forty said:
I used y = (at+bt^2)e^t
y' = (at+bt^2)e^t + (a+2bt)e^t
y'' = (at+bt^2)e^t + (a+2bt)e^t + (a+2bt)e^t + 2be^t
= (at+ bt^2)e^t+ 2(a+ 2bt)e^t+ 2be^t



i substituted those in and equated coefficients and got the result a = o and b = 1/10

have i done this right ?

You want y'' - 7y'+ 6y = 2e^(3t) + te^(t) and you've already done the "2e^(3t)" part.

y'' = (at+ bt^2)e^t+ 2(a+ 2bt)e^t+ 2be^t
-7y'= -7(at+bt^2)e^t - 7(a+ 2bt)e^t
+6y= 6(at+ bt^2)e^t

so y"- 7y'+ 6y= -5(a+ 2bt)e^t+ 2be^t= (-5a+ 2b)e^t+ -10bte^t= te^t. Equating "like coefficients, -10b= 1 so b= -1/10, not 1/10.
 

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