Generate electricity by gravitational force?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the feasibility of generating electricity using gravitational force, specifically through a proposed system that combines electrolysis of water and a fuel cell with gravitational energy conversion. The scope includes theoretical considerations and potential applications of the concept.

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  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a concept involving electrolysis of water and a fuel cell to generate electricity, suggesting that gravitational force can be harnessed to create a self-sustaining system.
  • Another participant asserts that the proposed system cannot produce more energy than is input, likening it to a Perpetual Motion Machine, which is generally deemed impossible.
  • A different viewpoint acknowledges the need for external input but argues that the system could convert gravitational force into energy effectively on Earth, while noting it would not function in space.
  • One participant expresses skepticism about the viability of the concept, implying that warnings about its feasibility have been given.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally disagree on the feasibility of the proposed system, with some asserting it cannot work due to energy conservation laws, while others suggest it may be possible under specific conditions on Earth.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights assumptions about energy input and output, the role of gravitational force, and the conditions under which the proposed system might operate, particularly the distinction between terrestrial and extraterrestrial environments.

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Occasionally saw this on internet, do anyone think this works?

"Hi. This is about an idea of generating electricity by gravitational force.

Attached please the basic concept of the idea. The idea consists of two major parts.

The first part of the system makes use of electrolysis of water and fuel cell. A fuel cell on the top generate electricity for electrolysis of water. And the electrolysis of water provide hydrogen and oxygen gas for the fuel cell. The energy loss from this part of the system must be minimized. And some energy from the outside is needed to initiate the system.

The second part of the system makes use of the products from part one (water, hydrogen and oxygen gas) to generate electricity. Hydrogen and oxygen gas will flow upward if it is mixed with heavier gas. Water will flow downward due to gravitational force. Turbines are placed in their flowing paths and generate electricity from their motions.

The system relies on gravitational force to work. If we manage to generate sufficient energy from the motions of the products to overcome the energy loss from the electrolysis of water and the fuel cell, the system can generate electricity by gravitational force."
 

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You will never get more energy out than you put in. (If you disagree with this, then you are claiming you have a Perpetual Motion Machine, which we do not discuss here)
 
The Perpetual Motion Machines would never work because no system can moves continuously without any external force.

But this concept do require an external input force and that's the gravitational force. This system will never work in the space but it might work on the earth. It's just converting gravitational force into energy.
 
Can't say you weren't warned.
 

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