Generator types in wind turbines

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the types of generators used in wind turbines, specifically focusing on the percentages of various types such as squirrel-cage machines, doubly-fed machines, permanent magnet machines, and synchronous machines. Participants are seeking general statistics and insights into the prevalence of these generator types in both small and large wind energy systems.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the percentages of different generator types used in wind turbines, specifically asking for statistics on squirrel-cage, doubly-fed, permanent magnet, and synchronous machines.
  • Another participant suggests that the majority of wind generators, by number, are small 12-14v DC generators used in RVs or boats, while large installations predominantly use doubly-fed asynchronous machines due to their efficiency and complex power controllers.
  • A later reply indicates that in large power installations, doubly-fed asynchronous machines are typically the first choice, but specific statistics are difficult to find.
  • One participant estimates that over 97% of large wind turbines are doubly-fed asynchronous machines, noting a trend towards newer technologies that eliminate gearboxes in favor of directly driven permanent magnet synchronous machines.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that doubly-fed asynchronous machines are prevalent in large wind installations, but there is no consensus on specific statistics or the overall distribution of generator types.

Contextual Notes

The discussion lacks specific statistical data and relies on participant estimates and experiences. There are unresolved questions regarding the definitions and classifications of generator types, as well as the context of small versus large wind energy systems.

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What are the percentages of types of generators commonly used in wind turbines? To clarify, what percentage are regular squirrel-cage machines? What percentage are doubly-fed machines, permanent magnet machines, synchronous machines, and so on. I'm looking for a general idea of these statistics.
 
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It depends what you are considering.
By number the majority will be simple 12-14v dc generators simply because most wind generators out there are small units used for RVs or boats.
For large power installations most modern systems will be double fed asynchronous because it's the most efficent and these systems have complex power controllers anyway to be able to feed to the grid.
 
Thanks mgb, here I'm referring to wind farms and large systems tied to the grid.

From what I've seen, the doubly-fed is the first choice usually, as you say. However, I'm hoping to find some specific statistics and I haven't been able to. I've even tried contacting the EIA. No reply. Any wind experts out there know?
 
In my experience, probably 97%+ are DFAS machines. The newer technologies are starting to get away from using gearboxes and use directly driven PM synchronous machines.
 
Thanks Topher
 

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