Geodesic on a cone, calculus of variations

In summary, the geodesics over a cone can be found using cylindrical coordinates and the arc length using the Euler-Lagrange equation. The differential equation is nonlinear, but can be solved using the abovementioned coordinates.
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Telemachus
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I have to find the geodesics over a cone. I've used cylindrical coordinates. So, I've defined:

[tex]x=r \cos\theta[/tex]
[tex]y=r \sin \theta[/tex]
[tex]z=Ar[/tex]

Then I've defined the arc lenght:
[tex]
ds^2=dr^2+r^2d\theta^2+A^2dr^2
[/tex]

So, the arclenght:
[tex]ds=\int_{r_1}^{r_2}\sqrt { 1+A^2+r^2 \left ( \frac{d\theta}{dr}\right )^2 }dr[/tex]

And using Euler-Lagrange equation:
[tex]\frac{\partial f}{\partial \theta}=0[/tex]
[tex]\frac{\partial f}{\partial \dot \theta}=-\frac{r^2\frac{d\theta}{dr}}{\sqrt{1+A^2+r^2\left ( \frac{d\theta}{dr}\right )^2}}[/tex]
[tex]\frac{d}{dr}\frac{\partial f}{\partial \dot \theta}=0 \rightarrow \frac{\partial f}{\partial \dot \theta}=-\frac{r^2\frac{d\theta}{dr}}{\sqrt{1+A^2+r^2\left ( \frac{d\theta}{dr}\right )^2}}=K
[/tex]

The differential equation which I've arrived is non linear. I don't know if what I've done is fine. I know the problem can also be done using spherical coordinates instead of cylindrical, but I've choossen to do it this way.
 
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  • #2
Telemachus said:
I have to find the geodesics over a cone. I've used cylindrical coordinates. So, I've defined:

[tex]x=r \cos\theta[/tex]
[tex]y=r \sin \theta[/tex]
[tex]z=Ar[/tex]

Then I've defined the arc lenght:
[tex]
ds^2=dr^2+r^2d\theta^2+A^2dr^2
[/tex]

So, the arclenght:
[tex]ds=\int_{r_1}^{r_2}\sqrt { 1+A^2+r^2 \left ( \frac{d\theta}{dr}\right )^2 }dr[/tex]

And using Euler-Lagrange equation:
[tex]\frac{\partial f}{\partial \theta}=0[/tex]
[tex]\frac{\partial f}{\partial \dot \theta}=-\frac{r^2\frac{d\theta}{dr}}{\sqrt{1+A^2+r^2\left ( \frac{d\theta}{dr}\right )^2}}[/tex]
[tex]\frac{d}{dr}\frac{\partial f}{\partial \dot \theta}=0 \rightarrow \frac{\partial f}{\partial \dot \theta}=-\frac{r^2\frac{d\theta}{dr}}{\sqrt{1+A^2+r^2\left ( \frac{d\theta}{dr}\right )^2}}=K
[/tex]

The differential equation which I've arrived is non linear. I don't know if what I've done is fine. I know the problem can also be done using spherical coordinates instead of cylindrical, but I've choossen to do it this way.

Is it separable? I didn't simplify your expression, but it looks like you might have

[itex]d\theta=g(r)dr[/itex]
 
  • #3
Yes, you're right:
[tex]r^2\frac{d\theta}{dr}=K \sqrt{ 1+A^2+r^2\left ( \frac{d\theta}{dr}\right )^2 }
[/tex]
[tex]r^4 \left ( \frac{d\theta}{dr} \right )^2=\gamma \left [ 1+A^2+r^2\left ( \frac{d\theta}{dr}\right )^2 \right ]
[/tex]
[tex]r^4 \left ( \frac{d\theta}{dr} \right )^2=\gamma \left [ 1+A^2+r^2\left ( \frac{d \theta}{dr}\right )^2 \right ]
[/tex]
[tex](r^4-r^2\gamma) \left ( \frac{d\theta}{dr} \right )^2=\gamma \left [ 1+A^2 \right ]
[/tex]
[tex]d\theta=\sqrt{ \frac { \eta }{r^2(r^2-\gamma) }}dr
[/tex]
eta and gamma are constants.

Anyway, I wanted to know if what I did was ok. I don't care that much about the integral :P

Thank you algebrat.
 

What is a geodesic on a cone?

A geodesic on a cone is a curve on the surface of a cone that is the shortest path between two points. It is the equivalent of a straight line on a flat plane.

What is the calculus of variations?

The calculus of variations is a mathematical method for finding the curve or function that minimizes a given functional. In the case of a geodesic on a cone, the functional is the length of the curve.

How is the calculus of variations used in finding a geodesic on a cone?

In order to find the geodesic on a cone, the calculus of variations is used to minimize the length functional. This involves setting up and solving an Euler-Lagrange equation, which determines the shape of the curve that minimizes the functional.

What is the relationship between a geodesic on a cone and the cone's curvature?

The geodesic on a cone is directly related to the cone's curvature. The curvature of a cone is inversely proportional to the radius of the base, so a smaller radius results in a larger curvature and a shorter geodesic.

Are there any real-world applications of geodesic on a cone and the calculus of variations?

Yes, there are several real-world applications of geodesic on a cone and the calculus of variations. One example is in designing efficient routes for transportation, such as finding the shortest path for a plane to fly between two points. Additionally, the calculus of variations is used in physics and engineering to optimize systems and minimize energy usage.

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