Given the partial derivatives, find the function or show it does not exist.

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The discussion revolves around finding a function based on given partial derivatives, specifically f'_x = kx_k, where k varies from 1 to n. Participants clarify that the subscripts indicate independent variables, and the integration process leads to a potential function form f(x_1, x_2, ..., x_n) = (1/2)x_1^2 + x_2^2 + (3/2)x_3^2 + 2x_4^2 + j(x_5, x_6, ..., x_n). The conversation highlights the importance of mixed partial derivatives being equal, which can help verify the consistency of the derived function. Ultimately, the participants seek clarity on whether their derived function is correct or if there is a more compact representation.
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Homework Statement



f'_x = kx_k, k = 1, 2, ..., n

The Attempt at a Solution



The partial should be f(sub)x(sub)k, as in, the partial derivative of f with respect to x_k. I wasn't sure how to represent that using TeX.

I'm honestly at a complete loss here, because I'm not entirely sure what the subscripts refer to. I suppose if k = 1, then the derivative of f with respect to x_k = 1x_1, but that tells me absolutely nothing because I don't even know what that x_1 refers to...

Any help would be much appreciated!
 
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Jormungandr said:

Homework Statement



f'_x = kx_k, k = 1, 2, ..., n

The Attempt at a Solution



The partial should be f(sub)x(sub)k, as in, the partial derivative of f with respect to x_k. I wasn't sure how to represent that using TeX.

I'm honestly at a complete loss here, because I'm not entirely sure what the subscripts refer to. I suppose if k = 1, then the derivative of f with respect to x_k = 1x_1, but that tells me absolutely nothing because I don't even know what that x_1 refers to...

Any help would be much appreciated!
f_{x_k} → \displaystyle f_{x_k}

The subscripts mean that you have n variables.

Rather than using x, y, and z for three variable, you could use x1, x2, and x3 .

What if n = 100 ? How else would you name all the variables ?

Added in Edit:

For instance, if we did use x, y, and z for x1, x2, and x3, we would have:

\displaystyle f_{x}=x

\displaystyle f_{y}=2y

\displaystyle f_{z}=3z\ .
 
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So you have some partial of f with respect to some xk where :

fxk = kxk

For a varying constant k.

You want to find your original function f. What happens if you integrate here?

Note that xk refers to an INDEPENDENT variable. We could have chosen y, z, u, etc.
 
I realized that a few minutes after I posted it, my bad!

So we've got f_{x_k}=kx_x.

The function f described by this set of partial derivatives should be in the form f(x_1, x_2, ... , x_n), right? So I run into a bit of a snag when we integrate that partial.

If f_{x_1} = x_1, then
f(x_1, x_2, ... , x_n) = \frac{1}{2}x_1^2 + g(x_2, ... x_n)

If this is correct, then moving on:

f_{x_2}=g_{x_2}(x_2, x_3, ... , x_n)

Implying:

g_{x_2}(x_2, x_3, ... , x_n) = 2x_2, right? And that:
g(x_2, x_3, ..., x_n) = x_2^2 + h(x_3, x_4, ... , x_n)

Well, I did this process over a few times and I'm reaching a definite pattern here, that shows:

f(x_1, x_2, ... , x_n) = \frac{1}{2}x_1^2 + x_2^2 + \frac{3}{2}x_3^2 + 2x_3^2 + j(x_5, x_6, ... , x_n).

Which seems to imply that

f(x_1, x_2, ... , x_n) = \frac{k}{2}x_k^2 + some function of g. Of course, I realize I would have arrived at this exact expression if I had integrated the beginning expression, I just wanted to see where this process would lead me.

Now, an issue arises with the function of g afterwards. Should it be:

f(x_1, x_2, ... , x_n) = \frac{k}{2}x_k^2 + g(x_{k+1}, x_{k+2}, ... , x_n)?

Have we arrived at the solution or is there some compact way to write the function of g? Or have I done it all wrong completely? :P Thanks!
 
Jormungandr said:
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Well, I did this process over a few times and I'm reaching a definite pattern here, that shows:

f(x_1, x_2, ... , x_n) = \frac{1}{2}x_1^2 + x_2^2 + \frac{3}{2}x_3^2 + 2x_4^2 + j(x_5, x_6, ... , x_n).
...

Have we arrived at the solution or is there some compact way to write the function of g? Or have I done it all wrong completely? :P Thanks!

It looks like you have:

\displaystyle f(x_1, x_2, ... , x_n) = \frac{1}{2}\left((x_1)^2 + 2(x_2)^2 + 3(x_3)^2 + 4(x_4)^2 + \dots\right)

Where does it end?
 
Look at the mixed partial derivatives. As long as the derivatives are continuous, mixed partial derivatives, with the same derivatives in different order, must be equal.

For example, if f(x,y)= x^2+ 3xy+ y, f_x= 2x+ 3y and f_y= 3x+ 1 so that, differentiating f_x with respect to y, f_{xy}= 3 and, differentiating f_y with respect to x, f_{yx}= 3.

If we are told that f_x= 3x+ 2y and f_y= x- 2y, we know that is impossible because that gives f_{xy}= 2 and f_{yx}= 1 which are not equal.
 
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