Good calculus textbook for physics, and vice versa?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around recommendations for calculus and physics textbooks suitable for someone transitioning from precalculus to calculus and then to physics. Participants explore various textbook options, their accessibility, and how they align with learning goals in both subjects.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a preference for Stewart's or Larson's calculus textbooks, highlighting the importance of examples in honing skills.
  • Another participant suggests that Stewart, Larson, Anton, and Thomas calculus books are largely similar, recommending the choice based on readability.
  • There is a suggestion that learning calculus and physics concurrently is feasible, noting that calculus becomes more involved in the electromagnetism portion of physics texts.
  • A recommendation is made for older editions of Stewart's Calculus and Thomas Calculus, emphasizing their complementary nature and the geometric intuition provided by Thomas.
  • One participant expresses enthusiasm for linear algebra and mentions their experience with Bauer and Westfall's Physics, indicating a need for calculus before progressing further.
  • Concerns about the high cost of new textbooks are raised, with one participant noting that they collect used textbooks and are not deterred by price.
  • A suggestion is made for "Vector Calculus" by Marsden/Tromba, which is said to cover both applied and theoretical aspects relevant to physics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the similarity of various calculus textbooks and the feasibility of learning calculus alongside physics. However, there are differing opinions on which specific textbooks are best suited for the transition, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the optimal choice.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention the importance of examples in textbooks and the varying approaches to teaching calculus and physics, but there is no consensus on the best options or editions. The discussion also reflects a range of personal experiences and preferences regarding textbook selection.

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There are two textbooks each of calculus and physics which interest me. I am almost finished Stewart's Precalculus, which I have spent countless hundreds of hours on over these last couple of months in autodidactic zeal; and I am intent upon doing over a calculus textbook before moving on to physics.
I make sure to answer correctly at least 50% of the questions in the book, which is probably about 90% of what I attempt. The state of my mathematical education prior to three months thence was abysmal. I do not give up, and I do not care for ease. I want what is best, but also accessible to my level.
There are two calculus books which appeal to me: Stewart's, which I feel is probably the best to go with after having completed his precursor text; and Larson's, which, as I browse through it, gives me a faintly stronger appeal - that and the auxiliary resources that accompany Larson's. Ultimately, my intention is to go on to either Young & Freedman's University Physics with Modern Physics Technology, or perhaps Bauer & Westfall's University Physics with Modern Physics; thus I should prefer that the calculus book recommended be the most suitable for going on to whichever physics text you would also suggest. I am also open to ideas regarding other legitimate alternatives, my primary criterion being that each chapter should abound in examples with which I might hone my skill.

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Stewart, Larson, Anton, Thomas calculus books are preaty much identitical. Choosing either one doesn't really matter. Choose the book you find easier to read.

You can learn both calculus and physics at the same time. Most introductory calculus physics book introduce calculus rarely in the mechanics portion. Starting from EM portion of the book and onwards, the calculus becomes more involved( nothing crazy).

I would recommend you purchase an older edition of Stewart Calculus and Thomas Calculus 3rd ed. Make sure you get the 3rd ed, These books supplement each other really well. Thomas has a lot of geometric intuition and the book layout does not have 7 diagrams and colors on every page.

After doing the equivalent of calculus 2, you may wana start learning linear algebra.
 
MidgetDwarf said:
Stewart, Larson, Anton, Thomas calculus books are preaty much identitical. Choosing either one doesn't really matter. Choose the book you find easier to read.

You can learn both calculus and physics at the same time. Most introductory calculus physics book introduce calculus rarely in the mechanics portion. Starting from EM portion of the book and onwards, the calculus becomes more involved( nothing crazy).

I would recommend you purchase an older edition of Stewart Calculus and Thomas Calculus 3rd ed. Make sure you get the 3rd ed, These books supplement each other really well. Thomas has a lot of geometric intuition and the book layout does not have 7 diagrams and colors on every page.

After doing the equivalent of calculus 2, you may wana start learning linear algebra.

Just curious, is there a reason you're suggesting an older edition of Stewart's Calculus?
 
It's cheaper and their practically all the same.
 
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I love matrices, so I do look forward to Linear Algebra. Larson's or Clay's, I figure.
I started Bauer and Westfall's Physics maybe six months ago, worked for a week before I realized that there was no way I'd get through the third chapter without calculus, and so here I've been, sitting right here for 10 hours each day glued to Stewart's Precalculus.
Cost is irrelevant. I've long collected books from thrift stores, I have more books than you could imagine, far from the smallest category of which is the university textbook. I live in a city with no less than four post-secondary institutes, so there is no lack of used textbooks floating around.
The one complaint I notice most people have with Stewart is that his books are unduly expensive (are not all new textbooks? a most enjoyable hobby is to buy a bunch of used textbooks, 2 or 3 bucks a pop, go home and check Amazon to see that they each sell for no less than $240) While I am sure that that is so, cost has no bearing upon my decision and so I want only the best when it comes to preparation for physics.
 
an older edition of stewart can be had for 5 bucks shipped (the full book).
 
"Vector Calculus" by Marsden/Tromba is a good book that focuses both on the applied (particularly in the physics) and theoretical aspects of vector calculus.
 

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