Good computer for running electronic structure calculations?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around recommendations for a computer suitable for running electronic structure calculations using Gaussian 03. Participants explore hardware specifications, particularly focusing on processor capabilities and memory requirements, while considering budget constraints and user-friendliness.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests a quad-core Intel processor with 4 GB of RAM, while expressing uncertainty about the use of graphics cards for calculations.
  • Another participant emphasizes the need for a high-performance computer, citing their experience with Macs and the potential for longer calculation times with lower specifications.
  • Some participants express a preference for an iMac, questioning its suitability for their needs and seeking advice on the appropriate amount of RAM.
  • There is mention of the possibility of customizing a Mac Pro to fit within the budget while meeting performance needs.
  • One participant notes that the version of Gaussian being used is newer than what they had experience with, suggesting contacting Gaussian for specific RAM recommendations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the need for a powerful computer for electronic structure calculations, but there is no consensus on the specific hardware requirements or the suitability of different models, including the iMac.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the exact RAM requirements and the limitations of their Gaussian license, which may restrict multi-processor usage.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in purchasing a computer for electronic structure calculations, particularly those using Gaussian software, may find this discussion relevant.

christianjb
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We're thinking of purchasing Gaussian 03 for electronic structure calculations. I think the basic license only allows for it to be run on a single processor. Can anyone recommend a decent desktop <1500 dollars that will do a decent job at running electronic-structure?

I suspect that memory (RAM) is a heavy requirement. Any idea how much RAM to purchase?

Personally I'd like to go with a new iMac, but would it be suitable?
 
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get a quad core intel
4 gig of ram

also, I am not very familiar with electronic-structure calculations but maybe you can use graphic cards? I heard there was a russian group or company who were breaking codes with Nvidia 8800 series cards; it has nearly 1 teraflop of power.
 
We're not super computer geeks- so I doubt we'd work out how to mod a graphics card in lieu of RAM.

Also- I don't think our license will allow us to do multi-processor calculations, so I'm not sure if we can make use of 4 cores.
 
You will need a heavy duty computer. When I was studying comp. chem we used Macs. Mac Pro perhaps? You can customize it to try to get it into your price range. The more you try to save in $$ the longer it will take to do calculations. One processor? You will definitely need a high end comp then. We were running our calculations on 5 computers and even then, some of the higher quality basis sets took almost a week to run. I'm not comp. geek either so I don't know if there are other better options out there.
 
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gravenewworld said:
You will need a heavy duty computer. When I was studying comp. chem we used Macs. Mac Pro perhaps? You can customize it to try to get it into your price range. The more you try to save in $$ the longer it will take to do calculations. One processor? You will definitely need a high end comp then. We were running our calculations on 5 computers and even then, some of the higher quality basis sets took almost a week to run. I'm not comp. geek either so I don't know if there are other better options out there.

Thanks. You think an iMac would be a good start? To be honest- we're not going to be doing state of the art calculations- we just need a machine that will be reliable and user friendly. I'd be interested in knowing how much RAM to get.
 
christianjb said:
Thanks. You think an iMac would be a good start? To be honest- we're not going to be doing state of the art calculations- we just need a machine that will be reliable and user friendly. I'd be interested in knowing how much RAM to get.

Yeah Imac would be a good start. Not sure how much RAM you would need. The version of Gaussian you are using is much newer than the one I was using. Try calling up Gaussian and ask them. After all Gaussian is a steep purchase and I am sure they have experts there that would be more than happy to assist you.
 
gravenewworld said:
Yeah Imac would be a good start. Not sure how much RAM you would need. The version of Gaussian you are using is much newer than the one I was using. Try calling up Gaussian and ask them. After all Gaussian is a steep purchase and I am sure they have experts there that would be more than happy to assist you.

Thanks for the help. I will do that.
 

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