Graduate School Prospects - I have no idea

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around a participant seeking advice on graduate school prospects in aerospace engineering, particularly regarding the competitiveness of their application to various institutions. The scope includes personal qualifications, experiences, and aspirations related to graduate education and career goals in the defense industry.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • The participant expresses uncertainty about their chances of admission to top-tier graduate schools, citing their GPA, industry experience, and research background.
  • Some participants suggest that the credentials presented are sufficient for admission to the desired schools, with a particular note that Caltech may be the most competitive due to limited slots.
  • There is a recommendation to perform well on the GRE and secure strong references to enhance application prospects.
  • One participant advises against including personal interests related to weapons in the application materials, suggesting a focus on concrete research topics instead.
  • Another participant questions the participant's career goals, noting that aspirations for academia may necessitate attending more prestigious schools compared to industry-focused careers.
  • The participant clarifies their interest in working in the defense industry and expresses specific research interests in aerodynamics and propulsion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the applicant has a solid foundation for applying to graduate schools, but there is no consensus on the specific impact of their background on admission chances, particularly regarding the importance of research experience and school prestige.

Contextual Notes

The discussion reflects varying opinions on the significance of different aspects of the participant's profile, such as GPA, research experience, and personal interests, in relation to graduate school admissions.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals considering graduate school in engineering or related fields, particularly those with similar backgrounds or interests in aerospace and defense industries.

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Hello all,

I, like so many others here, am planning on attending graduate school in the near future (in my case, I graduate next year). I'd like some advice that isn't just what I want to hear, so I figured the internet would be just the place!

OVERVIEW: I want to know what "tier" (for lack of a better term) of grad schools I have a decent shot at.

About me:

Interests: Virtually every aspect of science, math, and engineering is enthralling to me. In particular I am a fanatic about military machinery, especially military aircraft. I also enjoy all topics regarding weapons, be they missiles, guns, or bombs. It is fitting that me and my father are huge pyromaniacs to boot!

Age: 22
Undergrad University: Oregon State University
Undergrad Major: Mechanical Engineering, Physics Minor
GPA (At the moment): 3.70
Industry Experience: Two 6-month periods totaling to one full year
Research Experience: ~1.5 terms (Planning on researching every term next year, which would bring my total to 4.5 terms)
Major-Related Work: Tutored for two years and T/A'ed for three terms
Non-Major Related Work During College: Worked a regular food service job for three years at 20 hours minimum/week (the max allowed by law). I worked the same job plus another job (for a total of roughly full time) for a year. Needless to say, that was miserable.
Electives Taken Thus Far: Intermediate Fluid Mechanics, Applied Heat Transfer, Applied Stress Analysis, Thermal and Fluid Sciences Lab
Electives to be Taken Next Year: Advanced Power Generation, Gas Dynamics, Combustion, Mathematical Methods for Scientists and Engineers (3 courses), and Linkages if I have time.

Desired Master's Degree: Aerospace Engineering
Dream School: CalTech
Other Dream Schools: MIT, U.C. Berkeley, Stanford, Purdue, you get the idea...

I honestly have no idea what level of school I even have a shot at. No one in my family is in any sort of technical field, so the advice is minimal.

Some clarification on the info above:

OSU is a great school, but I fear that I will not have as good a shot as someone from, say, MIT since OSU is not in the same "echelon".

I am happy with my grades, but I don't know if they are good enough for a top school... However, my worst grades are in the general ed. courses. I have only received one 'B' and two 'B+'es in engineering courses. The rest are 'A's and 'A-'es.

I am hoping my industry experience is relevant... I have a full year of legitimate engineering work experience. This was in the form of two internships, each lasting 6 months, at two separate companies. While they were "internships", I was given exactly the same assignments, system access, and evaluations as a full engineer. The only differece is the company has no employment obligation after the internship. For more info, see:

mecop.ous.edu

I am really afraid that I don't have enough research experience. The ONLY reason I haven't researched every waking moment of my undergrad is that I simply did not have the time. Between working hard for school and working minimum 20 hours/week (I was DIRT poor) plus other obligations (e.g. tutoring), it was simply impossible. Even during the ~1.5 terms of research I did, I was barely able to make it into the lab for more than about 6 hours per week. I am really hoping that A) I can research a lot next year (I made tons of money on my internships), and B) My lack of research will not be a huge factor due to the aforementioned circumstances.

I am also hoping that my work ethic will factor into my chances. I believe I have a very strong work ethic and that it will show.

Thanks in advance for your time. I honestly have no idea what to expect or what my chances are at any school, let alone my dream schools!
If you want further information or you have any advice for me and my grad school prospects, please reply!
 
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You certainly have good enough credentials to get into all those schools. Caltech might be the hardest, just because they have so few students and therefore admissions slots. Do really well on the GRE, and get good references and I would so you have a real shot. As always, apply to a few backup schools as well. Applying to all of your dream schools is a good idea. I got into some of my dream schools and not into others. I had friends who got into schools I was rejected from and who got rejected from schools I got into. So who knows?

Also, I would omit any statements about your enjoyment of all topics regarding weapons in your personal statement of research. Try to pick a concrete research topic in which you're interested.

Good luck!

EDIT: The admissions committees know how good a school in Engineering Oregon State is. I wouldn't sweat that.
 
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Thanks so much for the informative reply! I wasn't planning on mentioning anything to do with weapons... That doesn't seem like the wisest thing to say... But thanks for the concern!
 
Does anyone else have anything to say about this?
 
You neglected (unless I missed it) to describe your career goals. Are you aiming to work in industries, etc., or do you wish to stick to Academia/basic research? The latter will require that you seek the prestigious schools to increase your chances of getting a tenure-track job. The former doesn't as much.

Zz.
 
ZapperZ said:
You neglected (unless I missed it) to describe your career goals. Are you aiming to work in industries, etc., or do you wish to stick to Academia/basic research? The latter will require that you seek the prestigious schools to increase your chances of getting a tenure-track job. The former doesn't as much.

Zz.

That I did. I actually had to re-type my whole original post due to a power bump... I guess I forgot the career part.

I am interested in working in industry, particularly in the defense industry. I am enthralled by military hardware, etc. My dream company would have to be Lockheed Martin, although I would be happy with any other, such as Raytheon. As far as research interests, although I enjoy essentially every topic in my chosen field, I am particularly interested in aerodynamics and propulsion, especially in regard to the fluid mechanics and heat transfer involved with both.

I may eventually pursue a Ph.D, but the current plan is to get a Masters degree and go into industry.

Thanks for the reply, BTW!
 

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