Graphs of Current through a Transformer

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the behavior of currents in a makeshift transformer when subjected to a 220 V AC input. Participants explore the characteristics of the induced current and the implications of the observed waveform on transformer operation, including potential safety concerns.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested, Safety-related

Main Points Raised

  • The original poster (OP) questions why the induced current shows a sharp spike rather than a sine wave, hypothesizing that this may be due to the changing magnetic field when the input current crosses zero.
  • One participant asks what was connected across the secondary side of the transformer to clarify the measurement setup.
  • The OP clarifies that the oscilloscope was connected directly to the secondary to measure voltage.
  • Another participant notes that the observed spiky waveform suggests the core flux may be flat-topped, indicating core saturation and high magnetizing current, and advises checking the resistance of the primary coil.
  • A participant expresses concern for the OP's safety, highlighting the dangers of experimenting with 220 V AC mains and urging caution and supervision.
  • A moderator locks the thread, stating that discussions involving dangerous topics, such as working with 220 V mains voltage, are not permitted.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of concern regarding safety, and there is no consensus on the interpretation of the induced current waveform or the implications of core saturation.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the measurement setup and the behavior of the transformer, but these are not fully resolved. The implications of core saturation and the safety of working with high voltage are also noted but remain contentious.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in transformer operation, electrical engineering, safety in experimental setups, and waveform analysis may find this discussion relevant.

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I have created a make-shift transformer using a circular core and some wire:
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It is quite basic, but I have some questions about the currents induced when one side of this transformer has a 220 V AC current passed through it.

I have an oscilloscope from which I have the graph:

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The perfect sine wave is the input current (220 V). I am just wondering why the induced current (the other side of the transformer) has such a sharp spike in the current. My initial prediction was that the induced current would also be a sine wave.

Then, when I saw the spike, I thought that there was a spike because the magnetic field is changing most when the current completely changes direction (When the sine wave intersects with x-axis). Am I right?
 

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What did you connect across the secondary (i.e. the other side of the transformer)?
 
Directly to the oscilloscope to check the voltage going through.
 
lekh2003 said:
Directly to the oscilloscope to check the voltage going through.
You are actually measuring voltages here. The sinusoidal waveform is your mains voltage. From the secondary voltage graph (the spikey waveform), it appears that the core flux is flat-topped with a lot of harmonics.
If the core flux is flat-topped, the core is saturated and is drawing very high magnetizing current.

Check the resistance of the primary coil.
 
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@lekh2003, your profile says you are only 14. I believe it is very dangerous for you to be trying anything on 220V ac mains.
Be very careful and do everything under proper supervision.
 
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The thread will remain locked.

PF does not allow public discussion of dangerous topics. Playing with 220V mains voltage certainly qualifies as dangerous. The OP is encouraged to continue his curiosity, but to choose his experiments with safety foremost.
 
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