Gravitational Acceleration and Determining Height

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a scenario where an apple is dropped from a bridge as a truck passes underneath. The objective is to determine the height of the bridge above the truck, given the truck's speed and length. The subject area pertains to kinematics and gravitational acceleration.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of kinematic equations to find the height from which the apple is dropped. There is confusion regarding the time variable and the need to consider the truck's constant speed. Some participants suggest converting units and clarify the absence of acceleration for the truck.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing hints and clarifications about the calculations needed. There is recognition of the need to convert units and ensure proper application of kinematic formulas. Multiple interpretations of the problem setup are being explored.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of using standard units for distance and time, as well as the implications of the truck's constant speed on the calculations. There is uncertainty regarding the units of time calculated and the resulting height of the apple's drop.

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Homework Statement



A person standing on a bridge overlooking a highway inadvertently drops an apple over the railing just as the front end of a truck passes directly below the railing. If the vehicle is moving at 55km/h and is 12m long, how far above the truck must the railing be if the apple just misses hitting the rear end of the truck?


Homework Equations



The ones we have learned in class are the general dynamics formulas:
X = X0 + V0t + (1/2)a*t
V = V0 + at
V^2 = V0^2 + 2*a*X


The Attempt at a Solution



I drew myself a little diagram of what is happening to help clarify the problem. After that, I decided to use the distance finding formula since the question is asking about height.

X = X0 + V0t + (1/2)a*t

I set my initial distance (where the apple is dropped) to be 0. The velocity at that point in height is 0 (release). What is left is this:

X = (1/2)a*t

This is where I am getting confused, since there is acceleration of the apple (9.8m/s^2) and acceleration of the truck (horizontal). I also do not know what to use for the t (time) in the equation. Any ideas?
 
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ZdravkoBG said:
X = X0 + V0t + (1/2)a*t
That last term should be (1/2)a*t2.

This is where I am getting confused, since there is acceleration of the apple (9.8m/s^2) and acceleration of the truck (horizontal). I also do not know what to use for the t (time) in the equation.
Hint: Figure out the time it takes the truck (which is not accelerating) to pass under the bridge.
 
Thanks for the hint, I had not realized that the truck had no acceleration.

What I did now is I found how much time is needed for the truck to pass the bridge. I used the displacement formula:

X=X0+V0t+(1/2)*a*t^2

I substituted what I knew:

12=0+55t+(1/2)*0*t^2
t=0.27

I am confused by the units. What is 0.27? Hours?

After this, I substituted the found (t) into the displacement for the apple:

X=0+0+(1/2)*9.8*0.27
X=1.32

Again, I am unsure of the units. Any help with figuring those out?
 
since the truck is not accelerating we don't need to use the equation of motion.
s= ut+1/at^2

convert 55km/hr into m/s and find out the time for the truck to cross.

s=vxt
 
the time will be in sec and that is the time taken for the ball to reach the top of the truck.
Now use s= ut+1/at^2 where u=0 and t is the calculated time
 
ZdravkoBG said:
Thanks for the hint, I had not realized that the truck had no acceleration.

What I did now is I found how much time is needed for the truck to pass the bridge. I used the displacement formula:

X=X0+V0t+(1/2)*a*t^2
This is fine.

I substituted what I knew:

12=0+55t+(1/2)*0*t^2
t=0.27
Careful here. Use standard units: Distance measured in meters, time measured in seconds.

As ypudi stated, you must convert 55 km/hr to standard units of m/s.
 
Thanks guys, helped a bunch!
 

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