Gravity of hollow sphere vs. solid sphere of same mass

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the gravitational properties of hollow versus solid spheres of the same mass, focusing on both external and internal gravitational effects. It includes theoretical considerations and implications of uniform density and thickness.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that a hollow sphere and a solid sphere of the same mass would measure the same gravitationally from an external perspective, assuming they also have the same radius.
  • Others mention that while external gravity may be the same, internal stresses and spacetime curvature would differ between the two types of spheres.
  • One participant states that if one is inside a hollow sphere with uniform density and thickness, they would experience no net gravitational force from the sphere.
  • Another participant confirms that the spacetime inside a hollow sphere is flat, noting that this holds true even if the density varies, provided the variation is purely radial and spherically symmetric.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the external gravitational equivalence of hollow and solid spheres of the same mass and radius, while there is some exploration of the internal gravitational effects, which remains less settled.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the implications of varying density within the hollow sphere or the specifics of internal gravitational effects.

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Would a hollow sphere measure the same gravitationally as a solid sphere if it was the same mass?

Just sharing an interesting question
 
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Andy SV said:
Just sharing an interesting question

Which belongs in a separate thread, so I have spun it off into one.
 
Andy SV said:
Would a hollow sphere measure the same gravitationally as a solid sphere if it was the same mass?

As far as its external gravity, yes (assuming it also had the same radius). Internally, the stresses and spacetime curvature would be different, but these differences would not show up in the external field.
 
Oh yes sorry bout that and thanks
 
I've also heard that if you are inside a hollow sphere that has uniform density and thickness, you will experience no net gravitational force from the sphere from anywhere within it. I've never bothered to check if this was true though...
 
Arkalius said:
if you are inside a hollow sphere that has uniform density and thickness, you will experience no net gravitational force from the sphere from anywhere within it

That is correct. More precisely, spacetime inside a hollow sphere is flat. (Note that this is true even if the density of the sphere varies, as long as the variation is purely radial, i.e., as long as everything remains spherically symmetric.)
 

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