Gravity: Why Objects Fall at Same Rate?

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The discussion revolves around the question of why objects of different masses fall at the same rate under the influence of gravity. Participants explore the relationship between mass, weight, and gravitational force, considering both intuitive and mathematical perspectives.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about how different weights can fall at the same rate, using the example of a large person versus a small child and questioning the nature of gravitational force.
  • Another participant suggests that while a more massive object requires more force to accelerate, this is balanced by its greater inertia, leading to the same rate of fall.
  • A third participant introduces a mathematical perspective, referencing the equation for gravitational force and noting that the acceleration due to gravity is constant at approximately 9.81 m/s² on Earth.
  • A later reply reiterates the intuitive reasoning provided earlier, emphasizing that the larger mass's greater weight is countered by its larger inertia, leading to the same falling rate.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the principle that objects fall at the same rate regardless of mass, but there are multiple explanations and perspectives on how this occurs, indicating that the discussion remains somewhat unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Some participants reference intuitive reasoning and mathematical formulations, but there are unresolved assumptions regarding the nature of gravitational force and inertia that may affect the clarity of the discussion.

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What I've been trying to figure out recently is: I understand that all objects fall at the same rate but don't understand how this makes sense given that things weigh different amounts. For instance, if I were to have a large person sit on my chest they would press much harder against me because of gravity than a small child, leading me to believe that the more massive adult is displaying more gravitational "force", but they fall at the same rate? Why?
 
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Jorge610 said:
What I've been trying to figure out recently is: I understand that all objects fall at the same rate but don't understand how this makes sense given that things weigh different amounts. For instance, if I were to have a large person sit on my chest they would press much harder against me because of gravity than a small child, leading me to believe that the more massive adult is displaying more gravitational "force", but they fall at the same rate? Why?

Because a more massive object takes more to accelerate it to the same speed as a less massive object.

The extra pull is exactly balanced by the extra inertia to not move.


Another way to look at it. Forget about gravity for a moment. Turn the experiment on its side. If you attached ropes to a small obejct and to a large object, and then pulled on them, would you expect the more massive object to leap towards you faster than the less massive object?
 
I think it's more like this

(GmM)/(r*r) = ma

cancel out the little m (say its the mas of the falling object)
and we have the gravitational constant times the mass of the earth, divided by the distance from its center, squared, as the acceleration of gravity. on most of earth, that's 9.81. :)
 
Jorge610 said:
What I've been trying to figure out recently is: I understand that all objects fall at the same rate but don't understand how this makes sense given that things weigh different amounts. For instance, if I were to have a large person sit on my chest they would press much harder against me because of gravity than a small child, leading me to believe that the more massive adult is displaying more gravitational "force", but they fall at the same rate? Why?

Please read an entry in the FAQ thread in the General Physics forum.

Dave has given you a very good "intuitive" reason why this occurs. While a larger mass may have a larger weight, it also has a larger inertia. So the greater force it has just about cancels the larger force one needs to move a heavier object by the same rate.

Zz.
 

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