Grid tie inverter distorting waveform

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around issues experienced with a 1kW grid tie inverter connected to solar panels, particularly focusing on the waveform quality and its effects on various appliances. Participants explore potential causes of the problems and possible solutions, including the nature of the inverter's output and the performance of the solar panels.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that the toaster buzzes but works, while the induction cooker fails to heat, suggesting the inverter may not produce a pure sine wave.
  • Another participant questions the inverter's power output, suggesting that the solar panels may not be generating the expected 1kW and recommends contacting the manufacturer for further insights.
  • A different participant mentions that many inverters produce a crude approximation of a sine wave, indicating that the waveform may contain significant harmonics and suggesting a check on the setup and balance of the system.
  • One participant expresses agreement with the conclusion that the inverter is likely not producing a pure sine wave.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the causes of the issues, with some attributing the problems to the inverter's waveform quality and others questioning the solar panel output. There is no consensus on the best course of action or the exact nature of the problems.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not provided specific details about the inverter's specifications or the solar panel setup, which may affect the discussion's conclusions. There are unresolved questions regarding the inverter's performance and the compatibility of the connected appliances.

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I've just wired in a 1kw grid tie inverter, feeding the power from solar panels into the mains grid, ( in Thailand , so no rules or regulations).

There are some problems I've noticed. Toaster buzzes , but works. Induction cooker won't work, lights come on , fan works but no heat delivered, when grid tie switched off, works fine again. Soldering iron ( temperature controlled) won't heat up fully.

This seems to indicate the grid tie inverter is not pure sine wave. What can be done? Would a power line filter help?
 
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oz93666 said:
I've just wired in a 1kw grid tie inverter, feeding the power from solar panels into the mains grid, ( in Thailand , so no rules or regulations).

There are some problems I've noticed. Toaster buzzes , but works. Induction cooker won't work, lights come on , fan works but no heat delivered, when grid tie switched off, works fine again. Soldering iron ( temperature controlled) won't heat up fully.

This seems to indicate the grid tie inverter is not pure sine wave. What can be done? Would a power line filter help?

Where did you get the inverter? Perhaps you should talk with the manufacturer about the problems. And 1kW is not a very big inverter. How big are the solar panels, and how much power do they produce in bright sunlight? I suspect that you are not getting 1kW out of the solar panels and/or they are not being operated at their maximum power point.
 
oz93666 said:
I've just wired in a 1kw grid tie inverter, feeding the power from solar panels into the mains grid, ( in Thailand , so no rules or regulations).

There are some problems I've noticed. Toaster buzzes , but works. Induction cooker won't work, lights come on , fan works but no heat delivered, when grid tie switched off, works fine again. Soldering iron ( temperature controlled) won't heat up fully.

This seems to indicate the grid tie inverter is not pure sine wave. What can be done? Would a power line filter help?

Most inverters produce a facsimile of a waveshape, but very crude, a step function with copious harmonics. I would check to make sure what you did was correct first, as far as the hookup and your regulator. Are the panels balanced with the inverter and loads?
 
oz93666 said:
This seems to indicate the grid tie inverter is not pure sine wave.
Good conclusion.
 

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