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The discussion revolves around the concept of grounding in the context of electrical charge transfer, specifically focusing on how grounding affects charged and neutral spheres during conduction and induction processes. Participants explore the mechanisms behind charge distribution and the role of capacitance in these scenarios.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions why a negatively charged sphere becomes neutral when grounded, despite understanding that charge is shared when two spheres come into contact.
  • Another participant suggests that the amount of charge transferred depends on the size of the spheres involved, noting the large size of the Earth as a factor.
  • A participant seeks clarification on the difference between grounding a charged sphere and the charge sharing that occurs between two identical spheres.
  • One participant proposes a relationship involving capacitance, indicating that discharging to a large capacitance (like the Earth) allows for full discharge due to constant voltage, while a smaller capacitance (like the sphere) may not allow for complete discharge.
  • A later post introduces a scenario involving induction, asking whether grounding a sphere while a positive rod is nearby would allow electrons to flow from the ground to the sphere.

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Participants express varying levels of understanding and propose different mechanisms for charge transfer, indicating that multiple competing views remain on the effects of grounding and charge distribution. The discussion is not resolved, as participants continue to seek clarification and explore different aspects of the topic.

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Limitations include assumptions about the behavior of charge transfer based on sphere size and capacitance, as well as the conditions under which grounding occurs. The discussion does not resolve the mathematical implications of these scenarios.

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Grounding is used for dircharging..
In case of charging by conduction,let a sphere having excess negative charge is brought in contact with a neutral sphere..Half of the negative charge goes into neutral sphere..But when the former sphere having excess negative charge is grounded,why it becomes neutral? Why does it lose all the charge ?
 
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The transported charge depends on the size of the sphere. The Earth is pretty large.
 


Yes..It is but why it neutralizes the sphere? Why its different from case when 2 identical spheres ,one negatively charged nd one neutral share charge by conduction?
 


I think he's saying it shares yes, but depending on size, so if one is twice as big as the other it would get 2/3 the charge and the other would get 1/3, so if one is 100x as large it would get 99.01% of the charge... and so on..
 


Another way to think of it is in terms of capacitance: Q = CV -> dV/dQ = 1/C. If you discharge to something with low capacitance (your sphere) then it's voltage will change fairly quickly, perhaps not allowing you to totally discharge. If the capacitance is huge (earth), then voltage will remain constant allowing full discharge.
 


Oh..I understand now.. Thank u all
 


In case of charging with induction,when a positive rod is brought near the left side of neutral sphere,electron start moving to left and right side becomes positive due to lack of electrons.Now if we ground that sphere from right side and don't move the rod?Will electrons flow from ground to the sphere ?
 

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