Group Theory Question: Ker(p) and Homomorphisms Explained in Detail

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The discussion revolves around a group theory problem involving a group homomorphism p: G-->M and its kernel K. The original poster is attempting to understand the implications of the kernel on the set Ka, which consists of elements in G that map to the same element in M as a given element a.

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  • The original poster describes their struggle with understanding the relationship between elements of Ka and the kernel K, particularly questioning the implications of certain equalities and the nature of the mappings involved.

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Some participants are engaging with the original poster's reasoning, questioning specific statements made about the mappings and the identity element in the context of group theory. There appears to be an ongoing exploration of the definitions and properties involved.

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There is a mention of confusion regarding the identity element and the nature of elements in groups, indicating a potential gap in understanding foundational concepts related to group homomorphisms and kernels.

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Homework Statement


Let p: G-->M be a group homomorphism with ker(p) = K. If a is an element of G, how that Ka = {g in G | p(g) = p(a)}

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The Attempt at a Solution


Okay, I've been struggling with this problem for awhile and I've ran into a problem:

-Let g be an element of Ka
-Let b be an element of K such that ba = g.

Since g is an element of Ka and the intersection of Ka and K is {1}, p(g) does not equal zero.

But then if ba = g then:
p(ba) = p(g)
p(b)p(a) = p(g)
0p(a) = 0, but p(g) can't be zero!

Someone want to shed some light perhaps? I guess I need help on understanding this road block I've run into as well as the actual problem >.<. Thanks!
 
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Why do you say p(b)=0?
 
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Nevermind. Lol I'm a noob i had an error in how I was thinking.
 
PsychonautQQ said:

Homework Statement


Let p: G-->M be a group homomorphism with ker(p) = K. If a is an element of G, how that Ka = {g in G | p(g) = p(a)}

Homework Equations


none needed

The Attempt at a Solution


Okay, I've been struggling with this problem for awhile and I've ran into a problem:

-Let g be an element of Ka
-Let b be an element of K such that ba = g.

Since g is an element of Ka and the intersection of Ka and K is {1}, p(g) does not equal zero.

What is zero? You're dealing with groups. 1 is the identity and all elements are invertible.
 
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